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Sub-letting of council accommodation. Why are so many mothers on welfare who still have active sexual relationships with the father of their child, are not living in the flat or house allocate for the

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SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:30:36

I know of at least five relationships where this is happening.

The fathers are still, actively in the children?s lives, and there is no apparent relationship problem, but they are living apart.

The mothers live part or most of their lives at the parents? (council) houses and in some cases the fathers do as well, so that they can sublet their council houses. I have not reported them yet. Should I?

Hattifattner Mon 25-Mar-13 13:33:09

you'll get loads of people telling you that you should mind your own business.....

I personally think you should report because a) they are not paying tax on that income b) the property should go to someone who needs to be housed - there are 3500 people on our local authority lists, for example. They would be most glad of a place of their own.

SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:33:43

Apostrophes appearing as question marks.

SugariceisaGoodEgg Mon 25-Mar-13 13:33:53

Your first post?

I would think you'd be better off minding your own business in all honesty.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Mon 25-Mar-13 13:33:54

Your OP title does not make sense. Reword it and see if we get anywhere then.

SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:36:01

Hatti, that is what is most unfair, some people are in desperate need of their barely occupied flats.

There is something about pubs being used too but don't know how they are scamming the system.

lysteddy Mon 25-Mar-13 13:37:01

Sorry do you mean both mum dat and children not living in their council house but renting it out?

SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:37:45

It's meant to say

"Why are so many mothers on welfare, who still have active sexual relationships with the father of their child, not living in the flat or house allocated to them both by the council?"

WireCatWhore Mon 25-Mar-13 13:37:47


SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:38:17

Yes, lysteddy.

fancyabakeoff Mon 25-Mar-13 13:38:46

Oh god, here we go again.

AmberLeaf Mon 25-Mar-13 13:39:27

Illegal subletting should be reported, if you are 100% sure that is what is happening.

The rest of your title/post doesn't make much sense tbh.

I wouldn't say '5 couples you know' equates to 'so many mothers'

The pubs bit makes no sense at all.

I prescribe a lie down in a dark room.

2cats2many Mon 25-Mar-13 13:39:57

If you really know of someone doing this, you should report them.

AmberLeaf Mon 25-Mar-13 13:40:41

You do know that a couple can make a joint claim for benefits don't you?

Are they subletting? do other people live in their home?

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Mon 25-Mar-13 13:41:02

I would actually report.

There are many many people living in B&Bs or hostels. Many of them women who have fled an abusive relationship, who are waiting for a home and it is not fair that someone takes the piss like that.

The fact that they're women, the fact that they're on 'welfare', the fact that they're sleeping with the father of their child/ren - is irrelevant to me.

All I think about is that woman sitting in a hostel with her kids and her healing bruises and waiting for somewhere to call home.

And yes, I know that's not the only category of person who is waiting for a home. I just used that one example of many.

SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:41:54

Yes, four of them are subletting on weekdays.

archilles Mon 25-Mar-13 13:42:12

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lainiekazan Mon 25-Mar-13 13:42:52

Why should she mind her own business?

I know someone who sublet their (very desirable) council flat in central London. She had been allocated it because she said her mother had written to the council and said her boyfriend (the mother's boyfriend) was a danger to her dd. Then the girl moved back home and was able to get hundreds of pounds in rent. It rankled badly that she was making an extra living out of this.

WhereDoAllTheCalculatorsGo Mon 25-Mar-13 13:45:41

It is considered a big issue, as many as 160,000 social properties are suspected as being sub-let illegally.
New lgislation is planned

kinkyfuckery Mon 25-Mar-13 13:45:43

As others have said, I think the fact that they are 'single mothers on benefits' is irrelevant. Subletting council properties without permission is wrong, and should be reported when known of.

moogy1a Mon 25-Mar-13 13:45:54

Why are so many people unwilling to accept that this sort of dishonest practise goes on? Same as with people playing the benefit system. Every time someone says she knows of this happeining, they're accused of lying, or having their facts wrong, or being told it's none of their business.
It is everyone's business when we all pay taxes.
YANBU , report them

specialsubject Mon 25-Mar-13 13:46:00

minding your own business when fraud is being committed costs us all money.

this is quite a common scam. Council flats/houses are for those who need them and are NOT to be sublet.

report. Please, please report.

SubLetFun Mon 25-Mar-13 13:46:02

archilles, I speak to them and know them well. They tell me, that is why I question whether I should report them or not. Yes, there are two or three council houses on the go. The parents on both sides of each family have large council houses and there's plenty of room. Not bored, just seeing children being carted from one place to another a lot and not seeing their fathers much in order to gain more income.

moogy1a Mon 25-Mar-13 13:48:01

Good enough answer Archilles?

belfastbigmillie Mon 25-Mar-13 13:48:14

Just report them. Job done.

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