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to be really angry that Molluscum Contagiosum is being described by "French Experts" as a sexually transmitted disease

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somewhereaclockisticking Fri 22-Mar-13 10:46:57

Researchers have looked at 30 patients with the average age of under 30 who visit a private clinic to have bikini waxes and fear that the spread of this STD is down to hair removal in this way - WTF?

Alot of the time when I mention Molluscum, people claim to not have a clue what it is and yet later admit that their kids have had it - and it's a bitch to get rid of because there are no effective treatments out there but it is NOT an STD - it can be easy to pick up via skin on skin contact - hence why alot of youngsters do get it around "that" part of their body - but it can be caught by anyone of any age and because it is easy to pass on it runs rife throughout schools. It is actually related to smallpox but is completely harmless although very ugly when your skin is blistering up and the spots can become very itchy (usually before they are about to burst). Unfortunately the virus is untreatable and can last up to 4 years so children cannot be kept off school for such a problem and are best just keeping their skin covered and not sharing towels/bedding etc.

The best thing would be for the "experts" to inform all schools and nurseries so people don't panic about the condition. All my children have had it at some point and the youngest was bullied at school so badly that she had to be removed - the "Head" claimed she was trying to "infect" the other kids! I had to drag my dd3 into school crying her eyes out because she was being teased and bullied over her condition - this left her deeply scarred long after the molluscum cleared up. I bought everything I could to try and help speed up the process (Zymaderm from the USA - Molluscum no More from Holland and Thuja tablets from the chemist) but nothing worked. It just had to work it's way through her system. To now read that it is being called an STD will only make it worse for children at school and for those that can't hide it - the bullying and stigma will only make their lives even more of a misery.

My dd2 caught it first from her friend when they went swimming - at least that's what I believe because it was after this incident that the spots first appeared and my friend then said her child had it. DD2 passed it on to dd1 but then they both got rid of it after a few months (and not many spots) and dd3 first showed signs about a year later but she suffered the worst. When kids asked what the spots were she just replied "oh that's just my molluscum" and for 2 years no-one batted an eyelid until we moved area and herb new classmates (and teachers) weren't so nice - imagine now some parent reads that it's an STD - would you let your child play with a 6 year old that you thought had an STD?? I just feel so angry and I wish that doctors would campaign so that people are better informed about it rather than allowing people to continue to think that this - very common - disease is an STD.

Thank you - rant over - but hopefully anyone out there who doesn't know about Molluscum will now know it's horrible but not sexually transmitted.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Fri 22-Mar-13 10:52:51

I've actually never heard of it so I had a google. It seems that the example given for adults who get it is indeed sexual contact. click here but children and young adults are most commonly the ones who get it and it's through close contact and sharing.

So yes, some awareness raising would be a good idea. It even says that it's mostly children who get it! I don't see how it can be called an std. That's just lazy when the facts appear to be that one of the ways adults may get it is sexual contact, but it's mostly something that kids get.

That's not the same thing, really, as something like gonorrhea or syphilis!

somewhereaclockisticking Fri 22-Mar-13 10:59:55

I know but it's printed in the paper today - yes I know the Daily Mail - but they didn't fund the "research" and are just reporting what "experts" have discovered - obviously they should check out their information beforehand and it's lazy of them to just print this nonsense but some people will read it and not know anything about it and unfortunately won't google it and learn more so will just go about assuming that it really is just an STD.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Fri 22-Mar-13 11:09:37

oh god. HOW did I not guess it was the daily mail? grin

Perhaps email them and ask them to correct the story based on the facts.

You may need to take some time to explain the meaning of the word 'facts'. This is the daily mail, after all.

Coffeenowplease Fri 22-Mar-13 11:21:15

If something can be spread by other means then it isnt an STD. End of story.Load of bollocks anyway the mail.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Fri 22-Mar-13 11:25:40

yup. typical mail though.

Arseways up and hard of thinking.

spread by close contact. one form of close contact for adults is sex. therefore this is a sexually transmitted disease.

erm. no. not really.

BegoniaBampot Fri 22-Mar-13 11:32:07

Had never heard of it till we moved overseas where it was very common. Both my kids had it - people here just aren't aware of it. It cleared up on the older one but got treatment for the other as it was spreading.

gordyslovesheep Fri 22-Mar-13 11:36:02

all 3 of mine have had it and 2 of my friends kids - one has eczema and it turned quiet nasty, we are all in the UK

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Mar-13 11:37:41

Genital warts are also spread by skin to skin contact but widely thought of as an STD. Same for herpes.

There is obviously a grey area. If you just classify sex as penetration ejaculatory intercourse then you limit "STDs" to HIV, chlamydia, gonorrhoea, hepatitis B and C etc, but then again HIV and hepatitis can also be transmitted through other non sexual means, so is it wrong to tell people they are "sexually transmitted"?

ilovepowerhoop Fri 22-Mar-13 11:39:32

my sisters 3 kids have had it and so have my 2 - all in the UK

SPBInDisguise Fri 22-Mar-13 11:40:20

The health protection agency classify it as an acute sti too

ChompieMum Fri 22-Mar-13 11:42:23

My DH had it around his eye! Perhaps the DM thinks he has some very specialist sexual preferences.

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Mar-13 11:42:57

I would say molluscum can be sexually transmitted. As can HIV, the herpes virus and hepatitis B and C. None of them are exclusively sexually transmitted though.

DeWe Fri 22-Mar-13 11:43:05

So on their thinking, if we can prove that you're can catch a cold off someone you're having sex with, then a cold is classified as a STD? hmm

Molluscum is apparently transmitted through swimming pools a lot. They put something in to discourage transmission of varuccas, which has allowed the molluscum virus to become more common or something.

Binkyridesagain Fri 22-Mar-13 11:43:40

I have just figured out that my daughter might have had it, I had no idea it even existed until this thread, she had similar lumps on her neck, the GP has no idea what they were so was referred to a dermatologist, they had no idea so removed them under GA, confused

Best thing to do with DM is to ignore.

FBmum Fri 22-Mar-13 11:45:32

My daughter had it and I couldn't believe the doctor said it would take a year to go. The head teacher was suspicious of it but I convinced her that my daughter could not be off school for a year (!) but would wear tracksuit trousers for PE hmm. Anyway, did my own "research" (Googled it!) and invested in some silver spray and a drink - I think it was elderberry. Fantastic! It cleared up in three weeks and has never returned.

scottishmerlottish Fri 22-Mar-13 11:59:52

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

VinegarDrinker Fri 22-Mar-13 12:02:28

Plenty of adults get molluscum too. Just in areas not widely on show...

(ex GUM doc)

SPBInDisguise Fri 22-Mar-13 12:02:45

The hpa call it an sti! Sorry to defend the dm but I do think in this case they're right

somewhereaclockisticking Fri 22-Mar-13 12:47:28

So SPB - if your child gets Molluscum will you tell him/her that they now have a sexually transmitted disease???? The problem is alot of people haven't heard of Molluscum and I can only imagine the reaction if they think that it's sexually transmitted ONLY - no-one really gives a stuff about a cold sore although they're unpleasant - but that's because alot of people know how common they are and they won't stop their kids from playing with another child just because of a cold sore but it is extremely difficult to explain to other parents and teachers who have never heard of it that it's nothing to worry about - even if a child is lucky and it clears up within a few weeks you can't keep your child off school that long.

SPBInDisguise Fri 22-Mar-13 12:51:05

No and I haven't said I would. I don't really understand it, but the hpa obviously categorizes diseases in a way that makes sense and this one is an sti. Obviously that doesbt mean exclusively sexually transmitted.
I'm simply leaping in to defend the dm (amazingly). That said I havenr read the article. If they describe it as an sti fine. If they say that everyone caught it through sexual contact, not fine.

somewhereaclockisticking Fri 22-Mar-13 13:01:53

well truthfully the article is about a study of 30 people having bikini waxing and how researchers believe that this is how the "STD" Molluscum is being transmitted and is therefore on the rise because so many people have bikini waxes - but obviously that's just rubbish - they would be better off going into a school and finding out how many of the children actually have molluscum at that time and they'd find alot more subjects than just 30 and I suspect none of them have been at the spa having themselves waxed lately (well provided they went to a school and quizzed the under 10's!). It's just such ridiculous research. I suspect the DM have mentioned it because you can then tie bikini waxing in with how so many young girls want to look like porn stars because pornography is so widely available etc etc - I totally back their stance on internet pornography as I don't want my girls to stumble across anyting like that on their computers and I know that filters don't necessarily work - I don't want to turn this into a DM rant because it's not about that - it's about how the DM have mentioned it as being an STD because that's how Molluscum is being referred to by these health experts - who should be educating people on how it is caught and saying "can" also be caught via sexual contact but not exclusively - as people have mentioned - so many things can be caught via sexual contact but aren't exclusively STD's. I'm just incredibly sensitive because DD3 had it for so long and faced so much teasing and bullying and then had to deal with a horrible, ugly, itchy and distressing condition and was treated like a leper by adults and children alike - and you don't expect teachers and certainly not the head to be so uneducated and allow that treatment to continue.

SPBInDisguise Fri 22-Mar-13 13:03:06

sad no definitely not and I'm sorry to hear that. Hope she is better soon

maddening Fri 22-Mar-13 13:35:38

Are they saying that the increase due to bikini waxing is due to bad cross infection control at salons?

ilovepowerhoop Fri 22-Mar-13 14:12:33

Brazilian bikini-line craze leads to rise in sexually transmitted skin infection

article says 'It is relatively common in children and people whose immune systems are compromised by illness or medication. However, it can also be passed on through sex, and over the past decade the number of sexually transmitted cases has risen'

From reading the article I think you are being a bit sensitive. They say children can get it but increasingly it is being spread during sexual activity.

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