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to think there should not be VAT on fruit juice?

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Talkinpeace Sun 10-Mar-13 11:59:19

Just binning a supermarket till receipt when I noticed that in my big weekly shop, the things that had VAT on were:
- toiletries
- booze
- fresh squeezed orange juice
all the rest of my food was zero rated

why is Orange juice deemed a 'luxury item' : if it was 17% cheaper (with no VAT on it) then more people would get their five a day.

NuhichNuhaymuh Mon 11-Mar-13 09:43:38

Tea and coffee are zero. Fizzy an cordial are zero standard rate

INeedThatForkOff Mon 11-Mar-13 09:32:15

Is there VAT on fizzy drinks, cordials, tea and coffee?

Trills Mon 11-Mar-13 09:22:08

Dividing foods into "healthy" and "unhealthy" is oversimplistic.

I agree that there should be no VAT at all on sanitary products.

ILikeBirds Mon 11-Mar-13 09:09:21

Any system that decides cake is not a luxury is fine by me grin

KobayashiMaru Mon 11-Mar-13 08:59:42

Soups and yoghurt are not beverages, they are food.

GreenEggsAndNichts Mon 11-Mar-13 01:15:25

Juicing oranges makes them a luxury item? confused So anything not in its original state should be a luxury item? That would include most items in the shop not found in either the produce section or the butcher counter.

foreverondiet Sun 10-Mar-13 23:46:37

Because its not very healthy as devoid of fibre, and full of (fruit) sugar. Best to avoid altogether.

Areyoumadorisitme Sun 10-Mar-13 20:30:12

talkinpeace OP is an accountant.... So am I, hence the explanation smilesmile

Peronally I think sanitary products should be VAT free. Does anyone know why they arent?

Baabaapinksheep Sun 10-Mar-13 17:04:47

Blankie - vat is charged at 5 percent on sanitary products, not the norm rate.

Catsdontcare Sun 10-Mar-13 16:57:09

From the point of view of no vat would make it easier for people to get their 5 a day you are wrong BUT as tinned fruit seems to offend you so much I conceed that it should be treated equal to fruit juice in being a not particularly healthy option.

Fruit juice is also bad for your liver not just your teeth.

Lonecatwithkitten Sun 10-Mar-13 16:50:26

Really at least 4 of your 5 a day should come from veggies not fruit. Juice really bad for your teeth as it rots them faster than sugary sweets.

VonHerrBurton Sun 10-Mar-13 16:44:17

I was answering your point from a 'if it was 17% cheaper more people would get their five a day' angle. So neither oj nor tinned syrupy fruit are good ways to do so.

Talkinpeace Sun 10-Mar-13 16:37:48

but tinned fruit in sugar syrup is fine?
or high fat cheese?

That vat maths just blew my head off.

Blankiefan Sun 10-Mar-13 16:34:18

Never mind orange juice; there's VAT on tampons! Luxury schmuxury... shock

VonHerrBurton Sun 10-Mar-13 16:30:05

Absolutely shouldn't be a good option for five a day. My friend who's kids won't touch anything except chicken nuggets, burgets and the like thought a big glass of fresh juice each morn would be a good idea. When get dc were 4 and 6 they had a mouth full of fillings and an extraction each.

It is a luxury item and should not be promoted as a five a day choice.

NightmareSpoon Sun 10-Mar-13 16:21:41

Soup and yogurts are not beverages

Catsdontcare Sun 10-Mar-13 16:09:17

I don't eat tinned peaches either.

Bilbobagginstummy Sun 10-Mar-13 16:07:58


Talkinpeace Sun 10-Mar-13 15:59:06

Beverages are subject to VAT
milk is not
nor are soups and yogurts

NuhichNuhaymuh Sun 10-Mar-13 15:57:05

Ok so Ill say it again. Fruit juice is a beverage. Beverages are subject to VAT.

Tinned peaches are classed as food.

Talkinpeace Sun 10-Mar-13 15:17:58

I suspect the VAT on fresh juice has more to do with trade tariffs than health!

For many years (this name has existed since 2005 and its always me) I've advocated VAT on all foods with more than seven ingredients.

Sirzy Sun 10-Mar-13 15:08:03

Surely now your arguing that more things SHOULD have VAT added rather than that fruit juice shouldn't.

Trills Sun 10-Mar-13 15:06:19

YA probably BU but I do appreciate your maths smile

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