The number overweight people at swimming today(482 Posts)
I went swimming today with my 3 children. I am not exagerating to say that well over half the children and teenagers were overweight; some were seriously obese.
It really was noticable. Girls as well as boys. Anything from age 4 to 14.
Okay - at least they were exercising but I was really shocked.
Exactly Steala. Helped out with dds swimming class yesterday so thought of this thread. Each class of 30 had 3 plus seriously obese children.
I'm really surprised at how many people this thread has upset. It's not about children with medical issues (steroid use/mobility issues). If only children with medical issues were overweight and the OP had said she had gone swimming and seen a/two overweight children, that would have been nasty but that was not the point she was making. It was also not about judging overweight people who are exercising. Of course we are all entitled to go to the same places and do the same things whatever put weight. It is simply that extra weight on so many was more apparent to her then.
I am not currently overweight but I used to be moderately so. When people observed that there were huge numbers of overweight people, I didn't feel judged. In a way, I felt vindicated: see, it really is a problem - it's even affected me! This was because I was active, walked everywhere, ate lots of veg and did not consider my eating to be excessive. In reality, I was eating a small packet of crisps, a small chocolate bar, a glass or two of wine most days in addition to my meals, having a weekly takeaway and being s bit heavy handed with the pasta. In black and white, it's clear why the weight crept on but I didn't think I was doing anything unusual.
The fact that vast numbers are overweight really is a fact. It shows that something or multiple things are going wrong and, rather than politely ignoring it at the risk of causing offence, or feeling upset and defensive when it is raised, shouldn't we be open and work out how to make our society healthier?
sparkling didn't notice it was a zombie thread but I suppose people are still responding as the problem is very relevant today!
I think the point the OP is making is yes the kids are swimming but then when they come out of the pool it's straight to McDs, Subway etc pigging out.
When I was a child McDs didn't open in UK until I was about 8, but also although we had crisps, chocolate, sweet etc they were very much treats and not encouraged. Also we tended to walk to school and am sure had more gym/playing field exercise. We also played out more - i was always on my bike riding round the streets or going with friends swimming at weekends, playing in street etc. kids these days don't seem to do that, a friend of mine with teenage child (19) and adult child (22) says her kids didn't play out as kids due to safety. Her DC now though aren't overweight far from it. Their mum is though but she has had battles with her weight.
I recall as a teenager generally most teens i knew weren't overweight, there were eg 3 children in the class who were overweight but the rest were either a normal weight or like me skinny. But again we were always active, caught the bus, walked part of the way etc. ice skating was common at weekends as wells swimming.
So I do think OP has a very valid point.
People are responding because the rise in obesity is STILL a big big issue!
As for Ricksheadtilt - for goodness sake get a grip.
This is the essence of your response "How dare anyone comment that they are shocked at the huge numbers of really overweight people there are, something which has just hit them after seeing loads of people in an undressed state".
What - are we supposed to not notice or comment about something which amounts to a national health crises on the basis that referring to it is hurtful to overweight people?
Why is anyone responding to the OP? They posted this over 3 years ago.
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I dont think the OP was judging. I am a bit overweight myself but that didn't stop me being surprised by how many really fat people I saw on recent visit to a nearby town. We are a very fat nation these days and sadly it is being normalised.
I find it hard to understand why people (health reasons aside) allow themselves to get so overweight. I am naturally quite slim but if I ever put on a few pounds I cut down and move more. I genuinely cannot comprehend how people let themselves get so large, unless their parents allowed them to become fat children, one of the reasons I hate to see overweight kids.
BUT. Do I actually notice let alone comment on other people's weight, especially when they are exercising? No. Not even slightly. None of my fecking business how others live and choose to be; but I do judge a little when I see children allowed to become obese.
Right so the real issue is that people are "mean" and in a gym some people stare at overweight people rather than the fact that a third of 10-11 year olds and over a fifth of 4-5 year olds are overweight or obese according to the 2015/16 National Child Measurement Programme (NCMP). Right.
KERALA1 we are already in a situation where overweight is normal, as 2/3 of adults are overweight. However there are signs that the rise in obesity is slowing down so hopefully we won't get as far as a majority of people being obese.
Exactly Brian. What makes it everyones issue is how the situation you describe is so common it is now almost normal. Most classes IME have at least one or two seriously overweight children in them. No child was that large in my primary school in the early 80s - not one.
This is a zombie thread but it is still mean and I believe some people feel this way, I have seen in the gym people snare at overweight people, obviously they are coming to the gym to better themselves its not all muscle heads who go gym.
I really don't understand people who pay so much attention to others bodies or features, how is it affecting your life?
OP - I agree with you. I am overweight and have been my entire adult life. My children are not overweight. I work with children and am shocked at how overweight some of them are. If they were that desperately underweight we would be addressing their parents or involving social services etc about neglect but I feel quite strongly that parents who allow their children to become extremely overweight (especially in primary school where they alone have control over the child's food) are also committing neglect or certainly woefully bad parenting. But of course, we are not 'allowed' to say so. Despite the fact they are setting their child up for a life time of weight issues and associated health problems (diabetes, heart, dental etc).
Being 'fat' is such an emotional issue (as so many people on here have demonstrated) that we have lost sight of the fact that it is just not healthy. If a child had rotting teeth or as I mentioned earlier was drastically underweight or had lice-filled, matted hair we would do something. If a parent is feeding them a vastly excessive amount of food (or junk food) we do nothing for fear of offending the (usually in my experience) overweight
parent. It is a very sad and very worrying situation.
Some people think that noticing and commenting on overweight (in a general sense) is offensive and attacking even when it's clearly not targeted at an individual
'Some' people as too easily offended and need to grow up
It is perfectly possible to notice that someone is fat without judging them for being fat
Why do these offended people think no one should notice? They love it when someone notices they have lost weight and expect praise....Perhaps people should say' I never knew you were fat in the first place' ?? Because God forbid they ever notice.
"Amazed that some posters still insist on posting attacking or sarcastic remarks about OPs post and subsequent posts by claiming she was judging fat people."
Some people think that noticing and commenting on overweight (in a general sense) is offensive and attacking even when it's clearly not targeted at an individual.
Maybe because they believe that simply being overweight is morally and aesthetically offensive - hence even referring to it in a general comment involves judgement.
"judging "fat" people in a gym/pool is like judging sick people in a hospital.
Why would you judge these people when you have concrete, visible evidence that they are actively trying to lose weight."
Last time I went swimming I left straight afterwards and ate two bags of crisps. I went swimming for a bit of recreation. I find swimming makes me hungry so I tend to eat mucho crap after I go. I suspect lots of other people also do this judging by the brisk business the snack machine in the leisure centre lobby was doing.
Also - the OP didn't 'judge'. She noticed and has commented on the number of very overweight people - something that is more obvious when you are in a place where you can see people unclothed. She didn't say 'I saw loads of disgusting fat people swimming. Why can't they show some self discipline?' There was NO judging.
Are you overweight? I am. Why do you read judgement and offence into the OP when I don't?
Judging "fat" people in a gym/pool is like judging sick people in a hospital.
Why would you judge these people when you have concrete, visible evidence that they are actively trying to lose weight.
Amazed that some posters still insist on posting attacking or sarcastic remarks about OPs post and subsequent posts by claiming she was judging fat people.
Can you not understand what you are reading?
If she said she saw lots of people wearing red coats...is that judging?
She saw lots of fat people. 40 years ago she wouldn't have seen hardly any. It's ok to make that observation and its worrying so many people will suffer health problems because we are becoming obese in alarming numbers.
Stop ignoring it and claiming anyone who says 'fat' is judging.
But yy low fat normally means high sugar and that's not good for you.
Oh no you poor thing OP.
Did it traumatise you?
Here is a hot cocoa to steady the nerves
Read the recent thread Zaurak. Its moved beyond that.
Actually just read a book set in the near future (The Mandibles by Lionel Shriver in case anyones interested). Very good - one of the scenarios is that the majority of people are obese, that is the new normal. We are heading that way for sure.
The problem is the related health issues and whether our socialised healthcare system will cope if say half of us are significantly above the weight we should be.
What will really help all those overweight people is being judged when they're swimming ... Oh wait ...
thefitfatty I entirely agree. It is why I am against products marketed as low fat - often having a bucketload of sugar in them to compensate for the loss of fat.
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