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To wonder what reasons people give for being willing to accept an organ but not donate

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crashdoll Wed 13-Feb-13 20:20:03

What the title says really.

I am happy for all my organs to be donated when I'm gone. I'd also accept an organ transplant if I was in that position. I know there are religious reaons for not donating certain organs but I do wonder how people can rationalise not donating organs if they are willing to accept.

crashdoll Wed 13-Feb-13 21:11:00

I don't have an issue with people who would neither accept nor receive for religious reasons, however I would question why religion says it's ok to receive and not give.

GrowSomeCress Wed 13-Feb-13 21:11:49

Adsss grin I'll keep checking every now and then and sign up when it comes back smile

larks35 Wed 13-Feb-13 21:12:08

Oops, realised that I'm way behind the debate. Chickensarmpit seems to be the only person actively against the idea, so surely as you feel so strongly, you would de-register and that would be it.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt Wed 13-Feb-13 21:13:05

The government have nothing to do with organ donation.

Do you think there are people in Whitehall cooking up some sort of organ donation scam? confused

chickensarmpit Wed 13-Feb-13 21:13:15

If you de-register, how would that work if you lose a child? Can you say you don't want to donate there organs or would the child have to de-register? It's a slippery slope if you ask me. How long until the government decide that they would actually own your organs/body? ( to much x files)

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:13:16

I hope the system is busy due to new potential donors? grin

Shenanagins Wed 13-Feb-13 21:14:01

Larks i agree the law needs changing. I am on the register, carry my donor card and have informed my family of my wishes but it pisses me off that if the time comes they can refuse.

chickensarmpit Wed 13-Feb-13 21:14:59

I was on the register lark but I came off after an accident in the family <bitter>

ReindeerBollocks Wed 13-Feb-13 21:15:41

Stop looking for bullshit reasons Chicken. Your views are selfish and it's being called upon.

The opt out system works well in other European countries and has done for many years without successive governments wanting to 'own' peoples bodies.

It's fine to say you wouldn't donate - I have no problems with those who wouldn't donate, but I wouldn't expect them to openly admit they'd accept an organ either.

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:16:30

chickensarmpit, you are talking shite! Of course the government wouldn't 'own' your body if we had an opt-out system.

If more people had such attitudes my DH would be dead and my DCs wouldn't have been born. angry

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:17:31

I think it's disgusting that family can override your wishes.

chickensarmpit Wed 13-Feb-13 21:18:11

Just because you don't agree with what I am saying, it doesn't mean it's bullshit. I have the right to an opinion, just like you do. That doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

Bunfags Wed 13-Feb-13 21:19:34

Caja, I've just got shot of a kidney, so I don't plan to donate the other one. I'm not sure if they can take any others if I'm still alive, as I need the rest. Can you manage on one lung? Maybe they could have some of your intestine?

Other than that, they're welcome when I die. They could use me for parts, experiments or as a teaching aid. I hope they find the cadaverous remains of some use. Soylent Green anyone?

ReindeerBollocks Wed 13-Feb-13 21:20:19

You have the right to an opinion however you are trying to allude that an opt out system would mean that the Government retains the right what to do with your body. That is untrue and bullshit. Like I said opt out systems work very well in other countries, so it's not like it's a new practice the UK are making up just to harvest dead people.

DreamingOfTheMaldives Wed 13-Feb-13 21:21:07

I am on the organ donor register and have told my husband this. He isn't sure whether he wants to donate. t I like to think that as he isn't sure, or as someone mentioned is apathetic, I would agree to his organs being donated, if I ever had to make that decision.

I imagine it must take incredible strength and courage to agree, at that terrible moment, to a loved one or child's organs being donated. I have great admiration for those who do.

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:22:40

But if you are spouting something that is incorrect then it is bullshit. confused

thistlelicker Wed 13-Feb-13 21:23:17

I'm diabetic I know I can't give blood, but I'm rhesus neg in blood n stock r low! I don't need blood but would give if could! Not sure if I can donate organs

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:23:42

I give thanks to those brave people who gave DH the chance of life.

ReindeerBollocks Wed 13-Feb-13 21:26:25

Caja I'll keep my fingers crossed you get a kidney soon. We had both MIL and DH on the transplant list for many years. Both had quite a wait but have had their call. Unfortunately, due to the toll the dialysis process takes on the body they won't be able to donate but they are eternally grateful.

I hope you get your call soon.

NorthernLurker Wed 13-Feb-13 21:26:44

I think those of you who are unwilling to donate must be in the fortunate position of never seeing a person in need. I have. I see them all day long in fact.

A donated kidney can give a patient a life TWICE as long as that they would have on dialysis. It frees them from time consuming treatments - and I mean hours and hours. It frees them from needles, from the risk of bleeding from their dialysis access, from the risk of infection through their dialysis access. It frees them from really serious assaults on their body image, it allows them to have children and to see their children and grandchildren grow up. It allows them the energy to work, it allows them to travel without having to plan dialysis. It gives LIFE.

I have no time for anybody who can read all that and then think 'ah but when I'm DEAD it would be best for that organ to rot with me'. You're WRONG. Really wrong.

ReindeerBollocks Wed 13-Feb-13 21:29:16

Northern don't forget heart attacks - dialysis has such a toll on the body. DH had two whilst waiting for a transplant. That had to be our scariest moment -DH's heart attack when DD was four weeks old. That's when I decided to be a live donor.

SauvignonBlanche Wed 13-Feb-13 21:29:53

I know someone who was involved in the heart rendering decision to donate her DB's organs.

A few years later her new DH needed a transplant in the same hospital.

goinnowhere Wed 13-Feb-13 21:33:13

I positively love the idea of donating. Would make sense of my life really. I dontthink family should be able to override the wishes of someone on the register. How selfish. Not their body.

lisad123everybodydancenow Wed 13-Feb-13 21:34:32

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NorthernLurker Wed 13-Feb-13 21:35:21

Good point Reindeer. Renal failure exerts all sorts of terrible pressures on the body and patients suffer all sorts of cardiac and circulation issues. Go to any dialysis unit and you'll find patients with amputations and you can find somebody with pretty much any cardiac problem you like to name. The quicker people are transplanted the better for them because you can minimise the damage done to the rest of the body.

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