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Colleague made racist remark on Facebook

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vivizone Tue 12-Feb-13 21:35:23

Keeping the FB theme that's on here today!
Not her first time. I suspect she is a EDL/UKIP supporter. Always with her Daily Mail tucked under her arm.
I just feel so cross. Cross that I know this muppet and cross with myself for not saying anything. Made worse by another colleague 'liking' the comment and replying 'too right, too right'.
We work for a really professional organisation. A very well known org.
Would it be wrong to report it at work? I will delete both of them although the woman who wrote the status is a right loud bully. I am shocked and really disappointed in collg who commented. Quiet as a church mouse and she shares that type of thinking.
Both me and collg who commented on the status are non white if it makes any difference.
Sorry for typos. Typing on phone.

squeakytoy Thu 14-Feb-13 01:35:07


My (black) friend once took me (white) to her local pub in Moss Side. I was the only white person in there. It was not a pleasant experience. Even the "friendliest" of her mates said "so who the fuck is this then?"...

This was 20 years ago, so I really do hope that times have changed since then.

MonkeySea Thu 14-Feb-13 02:03:46

I love this notion that only white people are racist. It really makes me LOL.

gimmecakeandcandy Thu 14-Feb-13 07:34:59

Of course not only white people are racist! I know many many non whites who are extremely racist, but sometimes it is due to how they are treated, but others because they just are.

BigAudioDynamite Thu 14-Feb-13 07:44:38

Acknowledging that non-white people can be prejudice as well as white people, doesn't alter the anything at all.

Do you need people to state that, to enter into the diacussion?

HoratiaWinwood Thu 14-Feb-13 07:50:39

LilMissSunshine - if you've listed your employer on your profile information and have a public profile, then a Google search for your company might bring up your page as a result.

All the advice is to keep your profile private. I don't know why anybody keeps a public profile nowadays.

Jinsei Thu 14-Feb-13 08:06:31

Am shock at all the racist apologists on this thread. Unbelievable!

And "third world religion"? Seriously?!

I'm so glad I don't have to mix with some of you in RL.

PessaryPam Thu 14-Feb-13 14:12:06

So are we Jinsei

Southeastdweller Thu 14-Feb-13 17:52:52

I love this notion that only white people are racist. It really makes me LOL.

monkey I don't recall reading that moronic notion on here confused

sunshineandfreedom Fri 15-Feb-13 13:12:56

I am astounded by the number of otherwise intelligent people who are racist or racism apologists. It's almost unbelievable, but for the fact that it's here it front of my very eyes.

Seriously, what the actual fuck?

Rhiannon86 Fri 15-Feb-13 13:17:28

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HoratiaWinwood Fri 15-Feb-13 13:21:12

Rhiannon - on the face of it, you're right. But curiously the vast vast majority of "concerns about immigration" are expressed in racist language, without factual foundation.

Seabird72 Fri 15-Feb-13 15:14:19

being racist is loathesome - if you are friends on FB with this person then you should comment on the page and ask why they have said such a thing? She will no doubt have many friends on FB who disagree but were afraid to say so. However UKIP and DM bashing shouldn't come into it. UKIP just want to put limits on immigration by anyone white or black because there haven't been any sensible limitations before by previous governments - DM cannot be considered racist when they campaigned so hard to have Stephen Lawrences's killers brought to justice. You might not agree with UKIP and hate reading the DM but just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean it's ok to claim they're racist. The BNP are racist. Individuals are racist - I am shocked at what some people actually come out with although those that do make racist statements don't usually do it in front of the people they are insulting generally (white or black) and are as nice as pie to the faces of the very people they hate - at least if you know someone is openly racist you can avoid them, not be friend with them on FB and will have a very valid point about not wanting to work with them.

Smudging Sat 16-Feb-13 20:10:25

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Theicingontop Sat 16-Feb-13 20:49:40

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whateveritakes Sat 16-Feb-13 21:28:16

I am shocked at what some people actually come out with although those that do make racist statements don't usually do it in front of the people they are insulting generally (white or black) and are as nice as pie to the faces of the very people they hate

Why assume that people who want to argue against religion, multiculturalism or immigration hate . Racists do hate a whole section of society. Doesn't mean other people can't have a view. America has one version of multiculturalism we have another but you can discuss it without hating people.

mystiquesonya Sat 16-Feb-13 23:16:00

Only read up to page 4 but I'm shocked and horrified at how many people are defending the fb post. Disgusting.

olgaga Sat 16-Feb-13 23:23:51

Yes it's really very depressing. I wouldn't hesitate to draw it to the attention of an employer if a colleague of mine expressed views like that on FB or anywhere else.

It reminds me of those "racist rant on the tube/bus/train video" situations - which have caused people to be convicted for race hate crimes.

Having thoughts like that is bad enough. Posting them on FB is as bad as giving voice to them.

Utterly indefensible.

Southeastdweller Sat 16-Feb-13 23:44:42

Though I still think I would report the colleague, I can understand why some people on here, including the OP, would rather just talk to the person. But what is beyond me is those of you who think it's best to ignore it completely. What kind of world would we live in if we all ignored bigots?


Bessie123 Sat 16-Feb-13 23:57:03

Can I just say, I think it's easier to be 'politically correct' if you don't live in the middle of a heavily non-white, non-mixed, closed community but are white yourself. There are certain aspects of communities where people tend to be poorer and not well educated that makes them behave in a highly anti-social way and when there is only one colour associated with that behaviour and it is a different one from yours, the issue often becomes about the skin colour, rather than the fucking annoying behaviour.

For example, there are some selfish wankers outside my house just now, making loads of noise and keeping me awake. Their skin is brown and I expect they are Muslim. They are just being ignorant youths but because the only youths anyone sees around here have brown skin, a lot of people (particularly those who are a bit older) would see the problem as the brown skin, rather than the youths living working class lives with not particularly educated parents.

Does that make sense? I think it's difficult to relate to that if you're not living in it because the changes in attitude are imperceptible day by day and what you may once have thought were racist comments become more normalised.

olgaga Sun 17-Feb-13 00:49:34

I grew up on a Council Estate in the middle of London.

Why would someone be more annoyed by the noise of anti-social behaviour from non-white neighbours?

Surely it would be annoying whatever race they were?

Unless in addition to being annoyed by their noise, you felt they shouldn't be there in the first place...

UpUpDown Sun 17-Feb-13 00:57:47

No Bessie, that doesnt make sense. Im working class and I live in a inner city, very diverse/multicultural area. Here, if people are making noise late at night, other people get annoyed because they are making noise. NOT because they are BROWN or MUSLIM. And that, you see, is because WE ARENT RACIST

ravenAK Sun 17-Feb-13 01:17:20

That's only going to work, Bessie, if all/the vast majority of annoying youths are 'brown' & all/the vast majority of annoyed elders are 'not brown'.

& even then, if you weren't racist, then as an annoyed elder you'd be thinking 'bloody kids!' at least as readily as 'bloody brown people!', surely?

I think most people, if asked to identify a factor that might lead an individual to be a noisy selfish wanker late at night, would come up with 'youth', rather than 'brown skin.'

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 17-Feb-13 01:28:10

I have to agree slightly with what Bessie says to some extent. I have heard comments from my own neighbours in relation to the amount of 'blacks' moving into the area and how 'it'll soon be all drugs&guns'. This was triggered from seeing a group of youths on the street. Would they have stood out and received the same comments had it been a bunch of white kids -I doubt it.

HesterBurnitall Sun 17-Feb-13 05:04:18

I disagree, HoHo, and would suggest it's triggered by racism based on the fact they've made comments about 'blacks' moving in at all.

Bessie123 Sun 17-Feb-13 08:42:07

Fgs, the problem with mn sometimes is that a lot of you are a bit dim, particularly when you are feeling all self righteous. I was trying to explain, as hohoho recognised that for some people, particularly those who are a bit older, who have seen the area they live in change and become dominated by a different racial group, anti social behaviour can be mixed up with skin colour and becomes in their minds a race issue rather than a behavioural issue. They are not being intentionally racist and on an individual basis are not racist, but because they never see white youths being wankers on the street late at night, they see it as a problem that attaches to the brown-skinned community.

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