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DrHolmes Thu 07-Feb-13 17:32:24

BF was pulled over by an unmarked police car today. He got out of his van and was told he was not wearing his seatbelt and they issued him with a £60 ticket. I came home from work and he told me the story and told me he was wearing it. He has a beeper that goes off every few seconds if he doesnt have it on and no one would drive about listening to that. I know he is telling the truth. If we appeal it then we put our case forward and then goes to court but if the fiscal find the police in favour we will have a higher fine. But i do not want him to pay the fine because that is letting them away with this. Corrupt filth. Not sure what to do :/

cumfy Sat 23-Feb-13 15:50:12

Was there any in-car camera / update ?

ComposHat Sat 09-Feb-13 17:35:53

Binkybix you managed to say everything. I wanted , but lacked the clear headedness to do so.

I agree totally.

Binkybix Sat 09-Feb-13 17:00:20

Clearly saying that all police are corrupt etc is just plain wrong. It's obviously a difficult, challenging job that requires a lot of strength to do, and I respect individual police unless proven otherwise.

But it does seem that whenever there is a genuinely bad experience here, or evidence that a police officer as being honest, there's always an attempt to rationalise or excuse it and a defensive approach (ie people feeling they are personally being got at because they to are police officers). And that doesn't really seem healthy.

I have had really good and not so good experiences of the police, and have known some who I have seen drink-driving or talking about turning a blind eye to things, for example. Does it mean all police are corrupt? No. Does it mean that this sort of behaviour needs exposing and discussing (without being accused of imagining it, making it up)? Surely yes.

BadLad Sat 09-Feb-13 10:31:59

"Then he went to a protest in the States, got roughed up (not severely), was put in a jail cell without being formally charged, was released 2 days later, tried to leave the country, was detained at the airport, shouted back at the police there, got roughed up again, was detained for a further couple of days, and finally came back to the UK where he now has nothing but praise for the UK police"

Did he miss the kettling and beating of the students during the UK student protests then?

DreamingOfTheMaldives Sat 09-Feb-13 07:31:40

Last time I checked Vicar, the accused doesn't need to prove a thing.

Anyway, I hope you slept well and that you manage to wriggle out from under whatever you found to sit on you last night!

MardyPants Sat 09-Feb-13 00:15:30

You know who else 'hated' the 'corrupt filth'? Dale Cregan.



SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Fri 08-Feb-13 23:47:28

It's good night from me ........... grin

amillionyears Fri 08-Feb-13 23:09:22

So goodnight from me too.

amillionyears Fri 08-Feb-13 23:08:19

Vicar, you are doing a great job telling us what the police are like nowadays for those of us who have very little to do with them.

For those posts like babies, most of us can see what their behaviour may be like by the way that they post.
So no real need to reply.

re the op. She may well be right. Her bf may have been wearing his seatbelt.But she wasnt there, but she could still be right.
But she did also post unacceptable stuff as well.
And, again, most MNetters can see that. So, imo and maybe others, there really isnt a need to "right the injustice of the op".

marriedinwhite Fri 08-Feb-13 22:51:09

Sending three cats (^^), (^^), (^^) to purr you to sleep. The middle one will sit on your head and the first one will sit on your chest and they might have a bit of a spat over your face if you don't snuggle down and get your head under the covers. I kid you not.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Fri 08-Feb-13 22:50:12

My mad lab-pointer cross will come and sit on you, vicar - but she is all elbows and it's like being sat on by a bag of scanners!

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:46:02

gnite! married
and sdt i will see if i can find a volunteer to sit on me....any takers?? no?

<eyes up the dog>

marriedinwhite Fri 08-Feb-13 22:41:05


SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Fri 08-Feb-13 22:40:56

Vicar - I think someone needs to take you by the hand and lead you gently away from the thread and sit on you so you can't come back. You don't need this rubbish and you don't deserve to be upset by it.

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:36:03

dreaming - it is. phone records would easily show if someone was on the phone or not.

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 22:34:56

well, as someone pmd me today - its like a scab i keep on picking....

you hate people who do that more than the police then? result! grin

i normally do hide threads when i say i will -but i feel the need to justify my existence on this one for some unknown reason.

im not attention seeking. you think i need more attention?? really?

i wanted to right the injustice of the OP. im not corrupt filth. i dont lie. and im not hateful.
i felt the need to try and debate this. im still trying to work out why.

DreamingOfTheMaldives Fri 08-Feb-13 22:34:17

It's pretty easy to prove if they werent.

Try again Vicar!!

marriedinwhite Fri 08-Feb-13 22:33:29

I hate people who criticise others for no reason related to the thread.

vivizone Fri 08-Feb-13 22:30:49

i hate people who keep on saying ' i am hiding the thread' but stick around. attn seeking much

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 21:54:01 first grin

(do you remember those conversations!!)

go on then....
hello? hello? you still there?
goodnight then.
put the phone down then....go first.....
you first.....

marriedinwhite Fri 08-Feb-13 21:51:26

Night Vic - go on night; night; go on, you put the phone down first; night then, bye. tell you what; I'll pm you if they kick off again wink

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 21:49:04

thanks married (still not clicked the bloody hide button which i really do need to do.....even DH tells me to hide these threads now and he is very anti establishment!)

latte - the police are human. I stop no one now unless i am 100% sure that they were doing what i think they were.....but its not a crime to stop someone and ask them what they were doing if you think they were using a phone etc. its pretty easy to prove if they werent.
and the other thing where you got told that only you had phoned - when you phone 999 or 101 you get through to a call handler - not a police officer. Several people do that job. So while you may get told by one operator or one police officer that only one call was made - unless we have access to every call with every handler its hard to know who called and how many times - if i get told there has been one call i tend to take that as red - there could of course have been more that i am not privvy too unless the dispatcher has relayed that message.
of all the things to complain about im scratching my head at wanting an apology because you are not the only one who called.....

i truly do need to go away from this thread now. it is getting slighly ridiculous and i could sit all night and try to explain - those that hate the police will still do so and those that dont will do likewise. im wasting my breath and my touch typing skills here arent i.....

marriedinwhite Fri 08-Feb-13 21:40:42

Night Vic - and thanks for all you have done for us and hopefully for what you might yet do. I am grateful you and others like you are out there. thanks

LatteLady Fri 08-Feb-13 21:37:50

I have for the most part had really good experiences with the Police but I have also had negative experiences too.

A couple of years ago I was in a black cab in central London chatting to the cabbie, when we were pulled over. The WPC accused the cabbie of using his mobile phone, he wasn't, we were discussing the phasing of lights. He pointed to the footwell next to him and said, "but my phone is there." To which she responded, "Well I saw you throw it down there." At this point, I intervened as she failed to notice me sitting in the back, "Can I help you officer, this gentlemen was actually talking to me and certainly not using his phone, do you think you should check his phone log?" Her face was a picture... but the cabbie was in bits. He was so shocked and when I asked if he wanted to make a complaint, she moved off pretty smartly. Now I hope that she is the exception rather than the rule...

On another occasion, I was told that I was the only person who had called regarding an incident in my street... in fact seven of us had called... that time, at least I received an apology.

To be honest it makes me just a little disappointed as I have always been brought up to trust the Police but these incidents have made me a wary,middle-aged, grey haired woman.

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 08-Feb-13 21:28:03

no you didnt married
babies did.

<finally hides the thread>

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