To not get why people put huge bids on eBay when...(28 Posts)
An item still has seven days left to run?? I just don't get it at all. Watching a premium brand pushchair at the moment and the bidding is already heading for what you would pay new. Or is there shill bidding going on?
Sorry first world problem but its got me very irritated.
I often buy a particular specialist vintage item (I try to buy them all), if I do nothing and go in at the last minute I will win (as I put in a high bid) but the price get pushed up,
But if I put in a medium bid as soon as an item is listed, lots of people will then not bother following the item as it is already high, I tend to get the item for about third to half cheaper than if it becomes a full on bidding war.
Nothing wrong with using tactics, its just not on to try to force everyone to use your tactic if they feel it doesn't work for them.
I am an early bidder and happy with it. If there is competition for the item then it will make minimal difference to the final price
and you can use tactics at real auctions too, you can tell the newbies they sit at front frantically waving number the minute auctioneer suggests price while if they kept quiet the auctioneer would drop starting price and they may have got same item for half the price
the dealers often chat before hand to make sure they are not bidding each other up so they agree tactics they stand at back and watch the room
sniping is perfectly legal so why does it annoy you it is just a way of bidding at last minute without having to personally sit at computer no more immoral than leaving your heating to come on when you are out; it is not cheating or anything
there is only one reason to bid early and that is on very large items like cars, travel systems as if no-one bids will often sell offline or get worried and cancel auction or take a BIN, I know you can cancel all bids to add a BIN but if you are on ball you just bid again which immediately cancels BIN anyhow, so sometimes on an item worth £400 with 99p start it is worth putting £50 bid in early then leaving your true max until the end it is about tactics
tactics are not wrong
if it were a real auction it does not last 7 days it last about 40 seconds, and you still have the choice of bidding early ( leaving commission bid with auctioneer) an absentee bid ( auctioneer lets you bid on phone) some auctions are also live so you can bid on line in real time you can also go to auction house and bid live so at least 3 if not 4 ways to bid on real auction though generally commission bids and bidders in the room get first dibs
sometimes at auction you get bargains no-one else interested in the lot fo you get it for £5 sometimes there are 5 telephone biders and 3 in the room and a commission bid it is just the luck of draw either way
but getting annoyed about sniping is like getting annoyed that someone left higher commission bid or bid by phone
I don't see the problem. The whole idea us that the person who is happy to pay the most pays just a but more than the second person. The same would be true if everyone sniped their maximum, except more stressful.
The maths of Ebay game theory is fascinating though.
*top bid early then leave it though, I generally lose out on those ones though or end up paying too much so yes sniping does win most of the time but is annoying when a bastard outsnipes you.
I don't see why its annoying though when people put a high bid in.. Its great for the seller and if you're not willing to go that high then just find another. It could have gone that high with snipers anyway..
Yes, MrsMushroom, I get that it drives the price up.
The thing is, some people don't seem to understand it's a bloody auction site!
If it was a proper auction, snipers wouldn't have the chance to try to get something for next to nothing (which what the OP is moaning about).
It would be a simple case of everyone who was interested bidding whatever they wanted to bid, in turn, until the highest price anyone was willing to pay was reached. In an auction it's not meant to be the case that the craftiest most sly person wins the item.
I just don't get the consternation at all. If the price ends up too high you can walk away from it and buy something else.
I had a sniping app which did well at winning me a few things and meant I didn't have to sit there watching it til it got to 10 seconds and then place my bid. It was ok til one day it decided not to put a bid in for some unknown reason and I didn't win something I really wanted. So I never trusted it again.
Sniping does mean you generally get stuff for lower than you would have done putting in a high bid. BUT snipers are also fucking annoying. Sometimes I'm impatient and so put in my to
Early bidding is silly, but new people are joining Ebay all the time and they might get carried away.
Something that is expensive to ship might go for close to retail, because you can sort by distance and find one only a few miles from your house & collect for free. Also, don't pushchairs these days come in many colors & permutations? It might be a hard to find one.
Oh I get why people put in their max bid and then leave it. What I don't understand is those who sit there watching the bloody thing and bidding multiple times a day!
If some stupid people want to go and bid lots on the stuff I have for sale though then that'd be great .
I don't wait until the last minute, because if I try to do that I always forget to go back.
I decide what I'm prepared to pay, sling a bid in, then ignore it.
I wouldn't pay a different amount if I bid later.
Because sometimes if you plan on nipping in at the last minute, you forget and loose something you really wanted. There's a Margaret Howell denim skirt out there that should have been mine...
Shelly if people left things till later, then the prices would stay lower.
If people bid over 7 days consistently trying to outbid one another, then the prices get driven up.
Do you not think it might just be slightly naive people bidding?
Someone puts a first bid in at say, £1 but with an automatic max bid of £50 and then someone else comes along and does similar so the item immediately gets bumped up?
I don't understand your consternation at other people bidding, though.
If an item is on for 7 days, why shouldn't someone bid whenever they want to?
I bid my highest price, then ignore it until it's sold.
I bid my highest bid early if I want something.
No dishonest reasons just that I have missed many auctions on things I wanted and intended to do a late bid on and kicked myself as a result. Now I don't bother with tactics, I bid when I see it and don't feel bad if I don't win.
Indith Yes that's what was happening on the one I was watching and then another person seemed to be bidding up their bids iyswim?
I am of the nip in at the last few seconds camp. Doesn't always work but have got a few bargains that way, especially things ending at quiet times.
The thing I was watchign wasn't automatic bids as you can see what is automatic and what isn't so there were these 2 sad cases watching like hawks and bidding constantly
and me teh even sadder sad case watching it happen.
If I see something I want, I put my maximum bid in and leave it. S if I see something on day 1 of auction and bid £400 I can see how bidding would appear to go up quickly.
I generally watch similar items for a couple of days then I will put my maximum bid amount on an item.
That way I can try to forget about it and if I lose it, I lose it.
Yeah it is annoying as it just pushes the price up. Daft people don't realise that if they wait until the last minute and stick their highest bid in then they could secure it at a far lower price.
I was watching something the other week that should have gone for a very reasonable price but there were 2 idiots who kept outbidding each other by 50p so every day it went up by a few quid.
It irritates me because its not consistent. You have several other of the same item going for much less and one or two which have been bid up to the hilt. Definately dodgy bidding going on. Nothing appears to be honest these days. Sigh, just me having a Victor Meldrew style rant. As I said, first work problem.
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