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sick of this country, what countries provide a better life for people that live there

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redbobblehat Sat 02-Feb-13 13:55:21

i'm sick of all these cuts backs, and lies from the goverment

so sick of it i'm actually thinking for the first time, i might perher to bugger off and live elsewhere

dh thinks dubai would be a good bet, but i think as a married woman, it's wouldnt be my first choice

so where would be a good bet

photographerlady Sat 02-Feb-13 13:59:01

Dubai treats its ppl like crap unless you are a business investors. How strong is your blind eye to people starving to death in the street?

redlac Sat 02-Feb-13 14:02:07

Hang off a couple of years then move to an independent Scotland!! At least you'll be able to speak the language (kind off)

herladyship Sat 02-Feb-13 14:03:59

I'm not sure your reasons for leaving are sound.. Surely 'lying' politicians are an international phenomena? And some things that are being 'cut back' such as welfare/NHS don't exist in other countries hmm

The grass is not always greener! My sister emigrated to Australia & is very happy there but it's not perfect. You have to be realistic & go into it with eyes open

herladyship Sat 02-Feb-13 14:04:36

I do like the Scotland idea though grin

Juanca Sat 02-Feb-13 14:04:52

Yeah cos no other government in the world lies to its people! You're dreaming if you think life is better somewhere else.

And why is Dubai so bad for a married woman? Unless you're intending to have sex in a public place you should be ok.

Roseformeplease Sat 02-Feb-13 14:04:57

Dubai great if you are an UAE citizen. They are paid more highly and virtually insackable. Terrible for others. No job security, rents and costs very high. The only cheap thing is petrol and the place is one huge motorway with high rises on each side. It is really, really hot. There are labour camps full of Indian and other Asian workers who work punishingly long hours for very low wages and in appalling conditions. There are low / no taxes because there is no welfare state, no pensions, no job security. The rich are very, very rich indeed and no one else matters. The legal system is questionable and you can go to jail for being in debt.

Not Dubai.

Branleuse Sat 02-Feb-13 14:05:17

nowhere automatically provides a good life.

wouldnt mind moving somewhere less blatantly corrupt though. especially if it was a bit sunnier to boot

nokidshere Sat 02-Feb-13 14:05:44

I agree with herladyship

Every country has their problems some not as bad as ours but lots a hundred times worse. YABU if you think you can go and live in idyllic harmony in another country that has no problems at all.

Pandemoniaa Sat 02-Feb-13 14:06:26

Dubai? Would you be happier living in a country which encourages slave labour then? I wouldn't even visit the place let alone live there. DSS had a 3-month contract out in Dubai and was horrified at the routinely cruel treatment meted out to its people and migrant workers.

Jinsei Sat 02-Feb-13 14:06:29

I have lived in several countries. All have their pros and cons. There were things I missed about the UK when overseas, and now I'm back, there are things I miss about the other places. There is no perfect place to live though the place I lived last was about as close to perfect as you can get.

andubelievedthat Sat 02-Feb-13 14:08:30

i will gladly swop places with you !(me, currently in Scotland) independent Scotland? oh yeah, we will all live high on the hog with ALL that oil revenue!( in the Scottish nationalist party"s fucking dreams) Germany? fit country , work hard ,play hard,very socialist ,well thought off as a worker ,great health system ( i lived there)would go back tomorrow if poss.but, it is my intention to return to live in England asap (the lord"s country!)

Pandemoniaa Sat 02-Feb-13 14:09:05

You also need to ask yourselves what you can contribute to another country. Increasingly, there are strict controls on immigration and unless you meet the skill set required, you won't get in. You could, of course, resettle in the EU but you won't get far without knowing the language of whatever country (other than Ireland of course) you consider moving to.

redlac Sat 02-Feb-13 14:10:49

I'm under no illusions about the oil money but at least we won't have the Tories

Booyhoo Sat 02-Feb-13 14:15:37

unless you are very wealthy, i'd say the UK is your safest bet tbh.

Mydelilah Sat 02-Feb-13 14:20:23

At least you wouldn't have corrupt politicians in Dubai - it's a dictatorship so no politicians, only ruling families. If you think you'd prefer that? wink The corruption is still there in spades though. I lived there for some time. Give me democracy and a country where people are treated if they are sick, fed and housed if they do not have the means. It is much more humane here.

theodorakisses Sat 02-Feb-13 14:21:04

Dubai has people starving on the streets? what utter bollocks. the ME isn't for you for sure if you are not going be able to experience inequality of wealth. for us, it has offered us a chance to live well, have decent healthcare and education and change the lives of people from developing countries. I love oil money, been accepting it for years and, believe me, you will see far worse shit in Nigeria, Kenya, Bangladesh to name a few of the places we have lived. But MN isn't really the forum for this discussion, the champagne socialists will always argue how unworthy it is although i wonder how many children get schooled at their expense?

theodorakisses Sat 02-Feb-13 14:22:21

I would rather remove my toenails with a rusty blade than live in the UK again, it is the least civilised nation I have experienced.

theodorakisses Sat 02-Feb-13 14:24:45

As a married women? Why? If only the leather faced Gucci bearing, maid slapping Brit expat women were nicer, it wouldn't have such a terrible reputation.

theodorakisses Sat 02-Feb-13 14:27:56

And most of the Bengali and Sri Lankan people I know have an "illegal" relative working in a UK hotel or burger bar. they rake it in and send it home. No NHS or rights...yeah, great.

thegreylady Sat 02-Feb-13 14:27:57

Bye bye

theodorakisses Sat 02-Feb-13 14:33:14

Love the intelligent discussions of MN.

Labootin Sat 02-Feb-13 14:33:44

I am laughing at people starving on the streets of Dubai.

no really .. I'm a leather faced Gucci bearing maid slapping Brit expat... That's. What We Do.

OP you sound incredibly naive TBH.

Hattifattner Sat 02-Feb-13 14:33:58

Cuts are so noticeable because so many people rely on benefits to get by.

The difference between us and other countries is that we HAVE benefits and a health service, we have a way to survive when things get tough.

In other countries, there is no provision for public health and welfare. Ive lived in AFrica, in USA, UK, parts of europe - you either pay shit loads in tax, or you do it all yourself and hope that your medical aid will cover you for your illness and that you wont lose your job and therefore your home in a downturn.

Scandanavian countries seem to have great public services like education and health, but their taxes are huge.

You cannot have it all I'm afraid - every country in the world is cutting back at the moment, but at least ours offers a safety net of sorts - maybe not as much as we would like, but at least people are housed and fed, be it everso humbly. Education is free. Medical care is free. You will be taken care of in your old age. This doesnt happen in most countries in the world.

Bobbybird40 Sat 02-Feb-13 14:34:54

I don't see your problem with the UK OP, just because its piss cold all the time, everything is majorly overcrowded on a weekend, houses are way over-priced, there are too many cars on the road, we get taxed to fuckery on fags, our politicians are spineless and the baby boomers have fucked the economy up but pulled the ladders up after themselves with their big fat pensions...what's not to like?

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