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To have never heard the term Pickney before today

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HilaryClinton Thu 31-Jan-13 17:02:45

...nor do I know what a Coconut is, nor why it is insulting?

Help me out.

Greythorne Thu 31-Jan-13 17:04:07

I don't know what pickney means, but coconut is an insult based on the "brown on the outside, white on the inside" trope.

BoysWillGrow Thu 31-Jan-13 17:04:41

I hope ur not a troll?

yaimee Thu 31-Jan-13 17:05:49

Don't know what a pickney is but I think a coconut means brown on the outside but white on the inside, so the opposite to a wigga! All very offensive and racially stereotypical, not nice words!

HilaryClinton Thu 31-Jan-13 17:07:20

Ok. Thanks but I think I'm none the wiser, what sort of things would "merit" the description.

HollyBerryBush Thu 31-Jan-13 17:07:31

Do you mean "piccaninny' ?

It's a derivative of Creole meaning 'small child' but it isn't really a poilte term these days. best left back in the days of segregation

HilaryClinton Thu 31-Jan-13 17:07:55

Not a troll.

Needingthework Thu 31-Jan-13 17:07:59

Pickney means children in Jamaican patois, although my mum used to use the term sometimes and she is from a different part of the Carribean so maybe it is not exclusive to Jamaica.

sukysue Thu 31-Jan-13 17:10:18

I'm not a troll either but I have never heard these words before what does wigga mean never heard of any of them coconut pickney what is that and what does brown on the outside white inside mean too. I honestly haven't got a clue.

HollyBerryBush Thu 31-Jan-13 17:12:20

Wigga - oooh thats in the corridors of every school hmm

BoysWillGrow Thu 31-Jan-13 17:12:52

It means kids, or children, black children, I would say its also a carribean thing.
What nationality are you op?

Nancy66 Thu 31-Jan-13 17:12:52

familiar with the 'coconut' meaning or 'bounty' as sometimes called.
noth heard the picnkey thing before though.

Trazzletoes Thu 31-Jan-13 17:12:58

suky brown on the outside, white on the inside = exactly what it sounds like. A black person who "acts like they are white". Wigga = the opposite.

yaimee Thu 31-Jan-13 17:13:04

Pickney means child but picaninny is an offensive term for a black child. In terms of how coconut would be used, I think it's to do with a black person behaving like a white person, however black and white people supposedly behave. I've heard th word used to describe Obama before. Offensive because it stereotypes racial behaviour.

HilaryClinton Thu 31-Jan-13 17:13:20

thanks Needing. From the other thread I had (Mis)understood as a mixed race child.

sukysue Thu 31-Jan-13 17:13:34

I'll google it.

BoysWillGrow Thu 31-Jan-13 17:14:10

Just asking, I dont want to sound rude.

sukysue Thu 31-Jan-13 17:14:17

Oh right wigga yes I see it now.

ubik Thu 31-Jan-13 17:14:26

yes a school friend was regularly called a 'bounty bar' - black on the outside, white on the inside hmm

meditrina Thu 31-Jan-13 17:15:31

"pickney" was part of the lyrics of The Specials "Too Much Too Young" and referred to children. I had always thought it was a Jamaican term, and had no idea it was considered offensive.

HilaryClinton Thu 31-Jan-13 17:16:06

boys I'm deeply rural Irish originally. I first saw a 'real live' black person in 1993 at the age of 21!

yaimee Thu 31-Jan-13 17:17:39

I'm not sure it is mediteina, think its Jamaican patios but I suppose it might depend how it was used?!

BoysWillGrow Thu 31-Jan-13 17:21:42

Ok, the child thing, it's not offensive, but with anything it's how it's used iykwim.

Clawdy Thu 31-Jan-13 17:21:49

Years ago I taught in an infants school with a high proportion of West Indian children and the little girls playing in the house corner would often pick up the dolls and say "Come here,pic'ninny,time for your sleep.." It sounded sweet then but it's not a term used today as far as I know.

HollyBerryBush Thu 31-Jan-13 17:32:05

Interesting history on the development and origins of the word.

Something I've learned today: it is still in usage as a chess term for the black pawn.

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