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to discreetly mention that 'discreet' has a discrete meaning from 'discrete'?

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IHeartKingThistle Wed 30-Jan-13 22:52:24

The one you want for breastfeeding is 'discreet.'

'Discrete' means 'separate from'.

As you were. Except for, you know, the discrete thing.

No wish to offend!
<runs away>

YouCanCallMeBetty Thu 31-Jan-13 06:55:01

Has anyone mentioned having a sneak peek at the Peak District?

Hesterton Thu 31-Jan-13 06:57:50

Phrasal verbs must be so confusing for English learners.

Take the verb to pass.

Pass up - hierarchical move upwards through ranks

Pass over - handing something to someone else, or dying

pass by - to leave out deliberately, or move beyond something

pass out - become unconscious or to graduate into the armed services

or to make

make up - reunite after a quarrel, or cosmetics, or apply cosmetics, or invent imaginatively

make over - to be done up (another one) to look lovely

make out - snog and generally get down and dirty

make for - head in a specific direction

make off - run away, or at any rate, leave purposefully

I am full of admiration for anyone who manages to learn English as a second language.

Hesterton Thu 31-Jan-13 06:59:33

Oh and just realised, make out can also mean pretend, lead someone to believe something which isn't quite true.

See, confuses even an English teacher.

RustyBear Thu 31-Jan-13 07:12:12

Can I add the one I saw on a sticker on some pyjamas in M&S?

'3 for 2 on selective items'

Unless they have some very clever clothes, it's 'selected'

Smudging Thu 31-Jan-13 07:16:26

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Branleuse Thu 31-Jan-13 07:20:09

i didn't know this, thankyou!

Bluestocking Thu 31-Jan-13 07:30:17

Discreet fist bump to OP! This drives me mad. Now let's tackle lose/loose.

MrsHelsBels74 Thu 31-Jan-13 07:41:33

Can someone give me a tip for remembering dependent/dependant as I can never remember which is which.

ZillionChocolate Thu 31-Jan-13 07:46:04

My name's Zillion and I struggle with affect/effect and which/that. Any suggestions?

IHeartKingThistle Thu 31-Jan-13 08:57:57

Sashh that was me too! [Grin]

IHeartKingThistle Thu 31-Jan-13 08:58:22


HoratiaWinwood Thu 31-Jan-13 09:34:47


affect almost always means "cause something" or "have an impact on something".

effect almost always means "the result of something".

The acid hail affected her profoundly. For a start, it had caused dints in her scalp, and a disturbing dip dye effect on her hair.

The verb "effect" sort of means "enable, cause" but is quite rare. It normally turns up in the phrase "effect change" which is the politicians' favourite. If in doubt, avoid.

There is also a noun "affect" which is even rarer. Avoid.

In conclusion, if it's a verb (so likely to get -ing or -ed on the end) use "affect" and if it is a noun (attracting adjectives like serious, or articles such an or the) use "effect".

HoratiaWinwood Thu 31-Jan-13 09:37:03

Dependent is the word 99% of the time.

Dependant is only used to refer to people who rely on you financially.

If in doubt, dependent is probably right.

I remember it that dependant is a legal term, as is defendant which is also -ant.

HoratiaWinwood Thu 31-Jan-13 09:39:09

learned isn't a present participle. Present participles end in -ing.

ThreeBeeOneGee Thu 31-Jan-13 10:33:33

verylittlecarrot Thu 31-Jan-13 10:46:08

But only because I detest the odious pressure for breastfeeding to be 'discreet'. angry

Otherwise, YADNBU.grin
As you were.

LunaticFringe Thu 31-Jan-13 11:28:30

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gimmecakeandcandy Thu 31-Jan-13 11:32:22

No... No space... No...

gimmecakeandcandy Thu 31-Jan-13 11:34:38

Ellipsis points can also indicate a pause in speaking or an incomplete or trailing thought by either the writer or the speaker. (A dash can also serve this function.) When an ellipsis falls at the end of a sentence and indicates an incomplete or trailing thought, do not insert a space before the ellipsis points. Doing so could result in a bad line break, with the ellipsis points appearing on the next line by themselves.
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SageBush Thu 31-Jan-13 11:45:58

Thank you, OP! The discreet/ discrete problem is my bete noire, with 'lose/ loose' a close second.

I also hate people saying 'nucular' for 'nuclear'.

cumfy Thu 31-Jan-13 12:13:39

Can I just stand around smiling benignly at all the lovely pedants?
No... No space... No...


No room for non-pedants here ..... move along, move along.

<Files in Lost in Translation>

RattyRoland Thu 31-Jan-13 13:27:12

Thanks, learn a new thing every day.

BumpingFuglies Thu 31-Jan-13 13:40:20

Saw this yesterday:


From the County Council shock

13Iggis Thu 31-Jan-13 14:20:49

Loving this thread grin

LunaticFringe Thu 31-Jan-13 18:10:05

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