To be annoyed at this Mother who is discouraging her DS from being friends with my DD?(63 Posts)
DD is in reception and since she attended the attached pre school, has been close friends with a little boy.
She has quite a lot of friends but this one is special. He also adores her and she him.
When it was DDs parents evening last term, her teacher told me that they were discouraging the friendship because the little boy was too reliant on DD....they THOUGHT but weren't sure, that the dynamic wasn't good as he would not play with any others....they assured me that DD was not stopping him....just that together, they seemed too intense.
They began splitting them up.
This upset DD who missed her friend. The Mother spoke to me about it and said that she wanted her son to form friendships with boys...I understand that it is not good for a DC to only be friends with one child exclusively but does that mean the friendship should be discouraged completely?
I left things until this term and as DD was still mentioning the boy, I made a tentatve suggestion of him coming for tea at some point and the Mother did a nervous laugh and changed the subject.
Am I missing something? I have not had any complaints about DDs beaviour...she's kind and nice girl and she adores her friend. I know that the Mother has let her son go on other playdates with boys...she's always been terribly friendly to me in the past.
Shouldn't 4 year old's be allowed to be friends with who they like?
People are jumping to conclusions that the problem is that the friendship is with a girl. It sounds like the other mother feels that the friendship is too intense, regardless of boy/girl. Though in my experience this is nearly always more true when you add a girl into the mix!
I've seen similar situations where both dc are the same gender. It's nothing to do with them being boy/girl and just to do with encouraging them to have other friends.
My middle son, had all the way through pre school, and primary his BF who was a girl, they happily played with other children, but it was impossible to separate them for a moment, anyone who tried gave up, very quickly and decided to see the positives in the relationship, they adore each other.
Both are extremely well rounded, happy and have a great social group of both sexes, I don't think children care what gender their friends are, adults need to get over it.
In their social group there is about a fifty fifty split of boys girls, all get along really well, hang out and support each other, I think it's weird to base friendships on gender.
I'm another one who feels that the gender is not the issue here. You say yourself OP that dd has other friends and yet this boy doesn't so it stands to reason that his Mother would be concerned. 'Wanting him to play with boys' is just easier to explain than suggesting that your daughters relationship with him may be too possesive. It is hard to explain something like that to a parent who doesn't agree without them becoming defensive.
I wouldn't worry, they can still play in the olayground together. If the friendship is that special it will continue. You should leave it be.
Knowing some parents as I do, especially dads, I suspect it may be to do with gender.
DS1 was very close friends with a girl at nursury and another girl in reception. I didn't bat an eyelid and neither did his dad.
I have been involved in a similar situation, but with ds and another boy. Ds regarded this boy as his best friends and I had assumed that they were. The other mother then approached the school and said that her son was overwhelmed by ds and would like the school to put some distance between them. I was friends with the other mother and could never understand why she did not approach me. However, I can guess that she would have found the conversation too hard.
At the time, I was deeply hurt by this as was ds, but in my heart, I understood where she was coming from. Ds has since left the school and the other boy cried when he heard he was leaving.
A bit rambling, but what I am trying to say is that it is not always easy to be objective about hour children' friendships. Sometimes other parents may not view our children as the wonderful associates they clearly are. I think there is little you can do but help your daughter to deal with a change in the nature of her friendship, anything else has the potential to cause more distress down the line, whatever real reason behind the other parents' stance.
I think it's a shame but ultimately the other parents will do what they feel is right for their child - I can understand them having concerns about their DS focussing only on one friendship regardless of the gender of the friend, having been in that position with my DD.
I'm also not surprised that the school are backing them tbh. Our primary is a bit OTT about this kind of thing too (imho) - they don't like the children referring to having a 'best friend' for instance.
Ds1 formed a strong friendship with a girl in Reception. They played together all the time, talked about each other to anyone that would listen. They did play with others, but normally they both played with the others and if anyone tried to push one of them out, they would go off together. Ds1 rarely played with boys, even as a young child, I had a small circle of friends with children of the same age, 3 boys and 1 girl, ds1 would always play with the girl and still has a closer bond with her. Now, though, at 7 and in year 2 he plays football with the boys at playtimes, and talks about lots of children but is still firm 'best' friends with the little girl from Reception and she is the one he chooses to do things with outside of school. I can understand the other parents concerns, as I had similar concerns (not gender related just that ds1 was so taken with one child), but now we are 2 years on I know that given time they develop and grow. I would maybe speak to the school to see what there take on it is.
OP reading between the lines, it sounds like the friendship with your DD was preventing this little boy making other friends.
The friendship may work very well for your daughter, but not for her son.
I was in a similar position with DS1 when he was at preschool. He became really good friends with another little boy, to the point where he didn't want to play with anyone else when this boy was around. DS1's behaviour was also much worse when with this other child, and there were several incidents where preschool felt that DS1 was actually being encouraged into behaviour that he wouldn't normally exhibit by this child - DS1 can be quite passive and this other boy, although a nice a friendly child, was very domineering.
They made efforts to encourage other friendships for DS1, and my primary concern was that being so dependant on one child left him very vulnerable if the other boy suddenly didn't want to play with him.
Fortunately they have gone on to different schools, but if they had ended up at the same school I would have requested that DS1 be put in a different class to this boy.
It sounds like school, and the other mother, have tried to be diplomatic with you. Go in and speak to them by all means, but be prepared not to like what you hear.
My dd was split from her friend in reception as they felt the friend was following dd decisions, like when they would chose who would have the playhouse during goldie time, who the scooters etc, dd would choose what she wanted every time, friend would choose that to be with dd.
Both friends 100% happy, dd wasn't considering her friend to be fair, she would think what she wanted and friend would copy.
Kept apart, dd is now the most unconfident child in the world and her friend is super miss confident.
They did something wrong in their handling as it was all downhill from there on.
OP it's pretty obvious the school acted on the request of the other parent. You going to the school isn't really going to change anything, with the exception that they may tell you the other parent approached them.
It's not just what you want that matters here; the other parent, for whatever reason, isn't happy with the situation and wants it to change. You can't force what you want on the other parent.
I would encourage your DD to embiggen her friendship group, and would definitely not go to the school.
By the way, in any instance where I've seen this scenario (with friends etc), there was usually one stronger personality and one more passive and the parent of the more passive child felt there was monopolisation. I'm not saying this is the case here. Regarding gender, hard to know if it's factor, given there are definitely oddballs out there who would see a small boy hanging out with girls a lot as a surefire way for him to catch the ghey...
...oh and also, far be it from me to generalise but on the basis of seeing my own kids (who conform perfectly to gender stereotyping, with little input by me ) and their friends in action, little girls tend to be bossier than little boys. Like I said, not always the case, just what I've observed.
Could there be a bit of that?
TBH I think you have to leave alone, unfair though it is. My son has had the same female friend since he was 4, although he does also have a good male friend too. I thought they would grow apart after the first year or so but they didn't and I'm fine about it. I do worry a bit more now he's getting a bit older as he doesn't really seem that in with the other boys, though as far as I'm aware he's reasonably popular and gets on with everyone. I have thought about enrolling him to scouts to get him a bit more interested in other 'boy' stuff, mainly cos I think he would enjoy it and so he can get by with the other boys if you catch my drift. But tbh it's up to him who he's friends with!
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