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city1984 Mon 21-Jan-13 09:10:06

Preschool is open but school is closed. Both have fairly local staff and are affected by same weather conditions.

city1984 Mon 21-Jan-13 14:25:57

Just found out all the other state schools are open too. So probably just a poor decision by head.

wordfactory Mon 21-Jan-13 14:00:34

I also think that any schools that are open should make it clear that parents will have the ultimate say on what is safe for their own DC.

So calling the school to say the journey is too risky should not be greeted by rude receptionists as per another thread!

wordfactory Mon 21-Jan-13 13:58:47

eatyourveg I think the lack of logic is what people find exasperating.

Obviously schools have individual circumstances that may affect them, but then the parents should be informed.

I was listening to a local radio station earlier and parents were furious. There really is no reason for them to shut or if there is these parents should be told. A one liner on the website would do it....' Apologies for any inconvenience but our boiler is broken' ...hardly beyond the wit of man.

LittleChimneyDroppings Mon 21-Jan-13 13:55:28

Private schools round here are open. Many state ones shut. For children who cant get into the private school, it is marked down as an authorised absence.

eatyourveg Mon 21-Jan-13 13:51:11

one ds at a private secondary which is open, one ds at a state secondary which is shut. All the other state secondaries around here are open except his! No logic at all.

ReallyTired Mon 21-Jan-13 13:49:47

I feel that closing a school because of a bit of snow is teaching the children a poor work ethic.

Thankfully my children's school is open.

NoThankYouToSideSalad Mon 21-Jan-13 13:42:32

Local state primary schools: open.
Local state secondary schools (on the same road as two of the aforesaid primary schools): shut.
Private primary school: shut
Private secondary: open

Roads are clear; public transport is running. Depending on the school, there are a lot of unhappy children or pissed off parents.

Dawndonna Mon 21-Jan-13 13:42:12

Independent school here is closed.

thereinmadnesslies Mon 21-Jan-13 13:41:11

the indie school where DH teaches is open when many of the state schools are closed. But it is part boarding so has to open for the boarders regardless of the weather.

wordfactory Mon 21-Jan-13 13:39:00

I must admit that I simply do not understand why the state schools are all shut locally.

It didn't snow overnight and the roads are clear. Obviously some may have boiler problems etc but I don't think all.

A lot of those parents are, I think justifiably, pissed off.

Pagwatch Mon 21-Jan-13 13:33:32

DDs private/independent school is open
Ds2s state school is shut.

I think most of the assumptions about why schools are open or shut are personal prejudice and/or bollocks.

wordfactory Mon 21-Jan-13 13:33:32

felicity those exams do not apply to the many many prep schools, or secondary schools whose pupils do not sit modular exams.

SocietyClowns Mon 21-Jan-13 13:33:08

Hahaha, getting fees back... Yeah, right (in my dreams).

FelicityWasCold Mon 21-Jan-13 13:28:54

Independent schools have no vested interest in keeping open

Anyone who thinks this is clearly a loon mistaken. There are public exams all this week and the pressure for independent schools to ensure every child does outstandingly well is immense.

wordfactory Mon 21-Jan-13 13:25:53

Independent schools have no vested interest in keeping open.

Fees are not refundable.
Attendence figures do matter.
They are just as responsible for their staff as a state school.
They are subject to all the same rules and legalities vis a vis health and safety.

FelicityWasCold Mon 21-Jan-13 11:43:39

Felicity, to judge by the price of some of these 'extras', someone is definitely making a profit, even if it's not the school. State schools are charged far less for exactly the same trips, curiously. Do the organisers assume they can just charge private school parents double?

Without a specific example it's difficult to argue against this. I can only say it isn't my experience. Independent schools are (mostly) charities, and aren't allowed to show a profit as such, although I suppose it is possible that they don't always search for the cheapest options.

MrsMelons Mon 21-Jan-13 11:10:19

DS2s fee paying school subsidise lots of the extra trips and parts of others so it could just be your school! Ours definitely do not make a profit.

Salaries/rent etc are still the same so it is completely irrelevant and also not all children go to the trips so they still have to be at school that day.

Our community (charity) pre-school do not refund fees as we still incur all the costs but we usually remain open anyway and would offer parents the hours at another session if possible.

gordyslovesheep Mon 21-Jan-13 10:54:50

I couldn;t give a shit - I have a lovely snow day at home with my kids - it's worth having a days unpaid leave for

everlong Mon 21-Jan-13 10:52:23

Two ds's at different private schools. One open and one shut.

The ds who had to go took a bit of bribing!

Seeline Mon 21-Jan-13 10:35:32

DS at fee paying school is in today
DD at state primary shut confused
I think one of the issues may be if staff have shildren who are at schools which are shut, it makes it hard for them to get into school/nursery etc. One big vicious circle.

PriscillaLydiaSellon Mon 21-Jan-13 10:25:15

Felicity, to judge by the price of some of these 'extras', someone is definitely making a profit, even if it's not the school. State schools are charged far less for exactly the same trips, curiously. Do the organisers assume they can just charge private school parents double? confused

Flisspaps Mon 21-Jan-13 10:12:41

Fair enough smile

Happy to be told I am wrong!

dixiechick1975 Mon 21-Jan-13 10:10:56

A lot will be down to staffing levels. Dd's school was open last year when all state schools in town were shut but as far as I know they put Classes together. Class sizes are 10 to 16 children max so 2 or 3 can be safely combined if some staff can't travel in. Dd's school is shut today and no we won't be entitled to a refund.

FelicityWasCold Mon 21-Jan-13 10:05:39

Slightly off topic, but... also irks me that we have to pay huge amounts for residentials/trips when we're already paying for the children to be at school on the relevant days. I know they still have to pay salaries etc, but it still bugs me.

Your fees cover a day in school. This costs the same to run whether your child is there or not.

The fees for residentials cover, the specific costs of the residential. They are not a profit making exercise.

FelicityWasCold Mon 21-Jan-13 10:03:04

Fee-Paying schools have attendance figures checked on by the independent schools inspectorate and where relevant work with EWOs.

Fees are not returned if school is closed by an act of God. Parents can insure against loosing out in this way and claim on their fees insurance for a refund if a child misses school due to snow/illness/other legitimate cause.

Lots of misinformation out there today.

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