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LatteLady Sat 19-Jan-13 23:08:30

Just before I went out to supper tonight, found my next door neighbour in tears coming up her front path... her cat had been savaged by foxes. From the sounds of it, Ralph a sleek cream cat with a ginger tinge will need to be put down as the fox has ripped open his under belly.

This is the third incident in our area over the last week, another lady was walking her dog and had to get between the fox and her dog and then got attacked too.

Am I unreasonable to think that there should be a method of culling this urban menace?

Punkatheart Fri 25-Jan-13 23:22:46

You two are making me giggle.

In my worst times, I close my eyes and imagine wolves. I can't imagine a life without animals....

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 25-Jan-13 22:33:55

also have a crush on punkatheart
does a brill job, talks sense, shows intelligence and compassion....i would. grin

PeachActiviaMinge Fri 25-Jan-13 22:24:44

Lots of twats about recently, god fucking forbid anything has a right to live if it does something we don't like and isn't a pet.

P.S Punkatheart - Marry me? The wolf walks - how amazing. My favourite animals.

ThatVikRinA22 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:43:48

so - whats the point in shooting it then man ? not being funny just seems to be a fairly pointless exercise if another moves in soon after....why bother to shoot them? For what reason do you shoot them?

maninawomansworld Fri 25-Jan-13 09:58:36

I tend to find that shooting a fox (out here in the sticks anyway) 'buys' you about 3 - 6 months before another moves in, unless it's in the spring then you might only get a matter of weeks.

Sallyingforth Thu 24-Jan-13 10:23:25

That would be pointless and ineffective. You clearly haven't read the previous comments.

theplodder Thu 24-Jan-13 10:17:59

foxes should be culled in urban areas. they are a menace.

Punkatheart Thu 24-Jan-13 09:27:30

I have already said this but killing a fox is useless. Another one will move into its territory almost straight away. The best way is by deterring it or, as maninawomansworld says, not leaving out any waste. Being frequently in your garden helps too...

maninawomansworld Thu 24-Jan-13 08:56:11

There is a great method, which I use frequently. It's called a rifle!
Seriously though, you'd get in trouble letting one off in a town (assuming you even know someone who posesses one) so I'd get together with the neighbours and call in a pest controller who can set a trap / trap for it.
After that, you can help yourselves by not leaving bins open, double bagging food waste so that they can't smell it as easily. They love thick cover to hide in so prune any overgrown areas in your gardens / near your houses so they can't use them for concealment.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 22-Jan-13 21:35:56

not all foxes eat cats

MrsTomHardy Tue 22-Jan-13 21:11:39

Mine don't eat indoors, they eat on the doorstep...they always have.
I've tried shaking the biscuit box when I want them in but that doesn't work....

LineRunner Tue 22-Jan-13 18:40:42

You feed them.

MrsTomHardy Tue 22-Jan-13 08:18:37

Easier said than done winter months my cats do tend to be in at night but during the rest of the year I hardly see do you get them to come indoors when they are out and about??

Bluestocking Tue 22-Jan-13 08:18:24

Crepuscular = dawn and dusk, actually. But yes, keeping cats in at their peak hunting times (dawn and dusk) is a good idea.

Abitwobblynow Tue 22-Jan-13 07:44:04

Repeating David Bellamy and Chris Packham's plea,

cat owners PLEASE don't let your cat out from dusk onwards. They are crepescular hunters (ie at night) and if every owner in Britain did this we could live with cats and birds in our gardens smile.

PigletJohn Tue 22-Jan-13 01:43:09

related to cats and not to dogs


Mimishimi Tue 22-Jan-13 01:24:23

Did you know that foxes are actually related to cats and not to dogs? I've never heard of foxes going for cats before.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 22-Jan-13 01:11:43

ill join your fanclub.

i love people with compassion for animals.
im all for humane traps. i kill nothing. yep. nothing, and i think foxes have as much right to exist as cats. (i have cats - i love them but i keep them in at night)

i think foxes are beautiful and i can see no justification for killing them in a barbaric way with dogs in which they have no chance of escape. hunting is barbaric as is badger baiting, cock fighting, hare coursing, blood "sports" should be banned - they are not sport. they are stacked in the hunters favour. i have long argued the case against hunting.

yes if they need culling then do it in a non barbaric way. but i believe most wild animals are self limiting - they will only breed based on the conditions.

i hated seeing that hunt video where the woman grabbed the fox from the hounds - it looked so small among those dogs and so outnumbered. its wrong. in no society should that be allowed. we call our selves dignified and humane - that shows the worst of human behaviour - to make a sport out of an animals suffering and eventual killing.

do that to a dog or cat and you would be prosecuted.
and rightly so.
so why is it ok to do it to a wild animal?
cats are pests to some people. if you rip a cat apart with a pack of dogs you will find yourself in court. (hopefully)

killing anything for sport is wrong in a civilised society.

LineRunner Mon 21-Jan-13 20:41:48

Councils and pest control - apparently they only have a statutory duty to control rats on their own land.

They have powers to control other 'pests' but more and more are not providing these services or are asking for contributions or are signposting residents to private contractors.

SaggyOldPregnantCatpuss Mon 21-Jan-13 20:21:06

Not at all.

PigletJohn Mon 21-Jan-13 19:57:15

that's a very strange, and inaccurate, interpretation.

Is that they way you feel?

AgentZigzag Mon 21-Jan-13 19:56:01

'I am right and I dont care what you say'

That statement works for me smile

SaggyOldPregnantCatpuss Mon 21-Jan-13 19:43:01

So basically you is saying 'I am right and I dont care what you say'?

PigletJohn Mon 21-Jan-13 19:37:24

Bluestocking said:

"there is little point in the "foxes are vermin" brigade trying to persuade these other people of the validity of their point of view. Or vice versa."

which I think is true.

SaggyOldPregnantCatpuss Mon 21-Jan-13 17:45:26

It was in answer to BlueStocking definition.

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