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AIBU to think that people should only be allowed a 4x4 if they actually need one?

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boomting Sat 12-Jan-13 21:08:02

They are ridiculously fuel inefficient, and given the finite supplies of oil and the effects on climate change (and no this isn't a climate change thread!), I think that the government should only allow you to own a 4x4 if you have a demonstrable reason for needing one. You would have to submit a form and be issued with a special licence to own one. Reasons could include being a farmer, or having to tow heavy trailers that cannot legally be towed with a smaller vehicle. This isn't an exhaustive list of acceptable reasons, but people who only use them for the school run and going to the supermarket shop should not be allowed to use them.


Proudnscary Sat 12-Jan-13 21:09:02

The government should control what cars we drive?


BlueberryHill Sat 12-Jan-13 21:10:40

Yes you are dear.

Some people think that you should have to pass a test before having children. That would be more useful than what you are proposing but just as unrealistic and controlling.

Have a sit down until you feel better.

OwlCatMouse Sat 12-Jan-13 21:10:56

The government has enough control.

Don't be fucking ridiculous

Greensleeves Sat 12-Jan-13 21:11:19

<wince> at the probably responses of many MNers at the thought of "not being allowed" their Chelsea tractors

OwlCatMouse Sat 12-Jan-13 21:11:46

Maybe there should be a test before you're allowed access to the internet wink

Kormachameleon Sat 12-Jan-13 21:11:50

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

wewereherefirst Sat 12-Jan-13 21:12:00

I think everything would be better if drivers knew the size of their vehicles. Most marketed 4x4's are not actual offroaders. There is a huge difference now

bedmonster Sat 12-Jan-13 21:12:52

Yabu. I love mine. So there.
<sticks tongue out>

Booyhoo Sat 12-Jan-13 21:13:37

aibu to think that people should only be allowed cars if tehy actually need one and then only to make essential journeys which they can't possibly make in another way?

aibu to think people should only be allowed to fly if they actually need to?

aibu to think people should have to walk everywhere possible?



OwlCatMouse Sat 12-Jan-13 21:13:45

<waits for the massive 4x4 bunfight to ensue>

AnitaManeater Sat 12-Jan-13 21:14:03

YABU and clearly no understanding of 4x4 cars

Are you getting your MPV's and 4x4's mixed up? Or in your mind is a 4x4 anything with a bit of ground clearance?

HecatePropolos Sat 12-Jan-13 21:14:35

By 4x4 do you mean large car?

Because there are massive cars that are not four wheel drive and there are normal family sized cars that are.

Is it any car that is 4 wheel drive that is ridiculously fuel inefficient?

There's a fiat panda that's a 4 wheel drive.

My mate's massive truck like 7 seater is not.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Sat 12-Jan-13 21:14:49

Probably not very workable, sadly. But it would be good if people who didn't need them, didn't have them.

FiveGoMadInDorset Sat 12-Jan-13 21:15:14

My last 4X4 was more fuel efficient then most cars. and it was smaller than a lot of MPV's

Doshusallie Sat 12-Jan-13 21:15:18

What bedmonster said

MidniteScribbler Sat 12-Jan-13 21:15:31

AIBU to think that people should have to pass a test before they can post stupid things on the internet?

EuroShagmore Sat 12-Jan-13 21:15:39

YABU. Some 4x4s are more fuel efficient than many other cars on the road, particularly older ones.

And you seem to have understood the role of government in a democracy. In a democracy, the people hold all the power over how things are run. They delegate certain bits of it to the government that wouldn't work on an individual basis, e.g. street lighting and policing. The people of this country have not delegated every bit of power over their daily lives for the powers that be to regulate.

AnitaManeater Sat 12-Jan-13 21:16:10

My 4x4 uses no more fuel than a 2wd car of the same engine size. Why should I not be allowed one?

JuliaSqueezer Sat 12-Jan-13 21:16:21

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Mintyy Sat 12-Jan-13 21:16:36

I happen to think yanbu, however this is a dull old topic that has been discussed 10,000 times before on Mumsnet ... and here, as in real life, the vast majority of people think that if you can afford a 4x4 then that's fine go ahead and have one.

My real issues (as a Londoner) re. 4 x 4s is the amount of space they take up, the extra danger they pose to pedestrians and cyclists, and the sneaking suspicion that 99% of them near me have never gone off road in their lives. Would probably feel differently if I lived in the country.

3monkeys3 Sat 12-Jan-13 21:17:40

It's subjective though. I need a 4x4 sometimes - we live at the top of a hill and we can't get up it if it snows, except in a 4x4, I sometimes drive down crap, holey tracks to visit friends. I don't need one every day. How would that be judged? As it happens I don't have a 4x4 at the moment. My dh gets no choice as he works for the company that imports subarus and they are all 4x4s.

Greensleeves Sat 12-Jan-13 21:17:51

I think OP means fuck-off great big shiny mumtrucks that make the school run a misery for everybody

Is that right OP?

discorabbit Sat 12-Jan-13 21:18:27

i used to think like you op, but with winter approaching and the amount of floods we seem to be getting - am thinking 4x4s are probably worth getting!

BarredfromhavingStella Sat 12-Jan-13 21:18:53

Oh dear, this will not end well.......

Freedom of choice & non of your fucking business to be frank.

No I don't own one & please note that there are lots of gas guzzling cars that are not 4x4's (though from your post I think you mistakenly think that only jeep type cars are 4x4's which is of course incorrect).

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