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AIBU to be annoyed my DS will be getting "Beatboxing" music lessons at primary school

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OhLori Fri 11-Jan-13 16:14:29

Had a letter from son's school today. Apparently they will be getting "beatboxing" lessons from a specialist "beatboxing" teacher coming into teach his class. DS is 10.

For the uninitiated, beatboxing is that sort of spitting into cupped hands over a microphone thing, found in some rap/hip hop.

I just don't want my son to learn this rubbish at school, it does my head in when he occasionally does it in the house so the last thing I want is for it to be encouraged further by a 'professional' at school.

I am amazed that the school is financing this, but we live in a London inner city area, so I guess its seen as "cool" to waste taxpayers money on this crap.

Would I be unreasonable to have other appointments on that day e.g. doctors, or be sick? I don't think there is much point in giving my opinion to the school. They are not interested in parents' opinions.

This is a genuine AIBU post, I don't know what to do.

MrsDeVere Mon 28-Jan-13 19:48:41

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

bowerbird Mon 28-Jan-13 19:39:02

OP, I think you've been given a hard time over your misgivings, and personally insulted (the word snob has been thrown around a lot) which is very unfortunate.

However, as a couple of posters have already said, this beatbox workshop does have real value. I'm a classically trained musician, and one of the key skills you have to learn, perhaps the hardest one to really really understand internally, is rhythm. Anything percussive that focusses on this is a good thing, not because it's "relevant" or "street" or "multiculti", but because it actually shows, very clearly, rhythmic progression and variety. There is a direct link from beatbox to rap music, which uses the voice percussively and whatever you might think of rap music (and I really hate some of the misogynistic rap), it's a major influence in modern music and to not understand this is to be ignorant, just as some would prefer to be ignorant about "last centuries music".

OP, I understand your initial reluctance, but please keep an open mind about this stuff. What might seem rubbish-y could actually be a great opportunity to ignite an interest in music.

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jan-13 19:39:02

oooh handbags OP

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 17:33:02

dumb swearing clever (not) and not even funny, but if it makes you feel good to write turdish things no doubt AIBU is your true home.

MrsDeVere Mon 28-Jan-13 16:55:01

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 16:53:25

She's still paying for it, tax threshold or not, because obviously its through the public purse (e.g. council tax). Who else is paying for it?

But you are right Absy I am going to take a break from rest of thread. But OTOH I did not want to take it lying down so to speak. I wanted to let people know that this is a democracy, and we all have a right to our views, without being personally insulted (and that includes on MN).

Absy Mon 28-Jan-13 16:45:41

Maybe it's time to take a break from the thread OP, if it's causing you this much angst.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 28-Jan-13 16:39:45


There were really very very few personal insult. Rather more of what you interpreted as such. No deletions, even though you obviously reported the thread to MNHQ. Reread it and you'll see.

Checkout girl probably doesn't reach tax threshold.

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 16:37:24

Inverse snobbery and accusations of racism via multiculturasm, not really anything to do with my original post, but people like to do that anyway, has good personal insult value.

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 16:36:10

She is paying for it, already.

Absy Mon 28-Jan-13 16:31:07

Man this thread is amazing.

It's a good thing checkout girl living in hostel tax payer is not paying for bboxing lessons. IMAGINE THE OUTRAGE

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 28-Jan-13 16:24:03

How did I miss this little gem of a thread.?
There really are a couple of rather narrowminded snobs on MN aren't there?

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 28-Jan-13 16:01:48

Not from me, mate. I was nice.

You seem a bit wound up about the school, and the borough.

Just saying

Harriet35 Mon 28-Jan-13 16:01:07

I agree with the OP. "Beatboxing" requires no musical talent. They wouldn't teach it in a posh private school, or probably even a normal school out in the sticks, so why teach inner city kids this rubbish?

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 15:59:26

There wasn't much reasoned arguments and alot of personal nastiness directed at me, so I make no apology there.

MN Massif is alive and kicking on several subjects, and if you don't "comply" well you have to take the personal shit.

ITs NOTHING to do with reasonableness IME, and I am talkind about threads in general.

But if you wanna pay for your child to learn BBoxing, and take private lessons which you are prepared to pay for, good luck, I would never pass comment. But I would eat my hat if any of the vociferous and angry posters did ... just sayin'...

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 28-Jan-13 15:53:17

Well, it's nice that you reduced our reasoned arguments to us being a "massif"

Good luck with secondary school in inner London. Distressingly multi-cultural.

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 15:53:03

And ... ignoring the personal remarks once again ... I admit I am Sooo glad the Taxpayer in my local borough (thats the single CheckOut Supermarket Girl living in a Hostel) is not paying for such.

ithaka Mon 28-Jan-13 15:51:58

Why was it cancelled?

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 15:48:44

I'm not a weirddo Fake, just saying there is now more availability for MN Stains" Massif" to pay for privately for what they are so enthusiastic about ! lol!!!!!

And agree with SilverBaubles "armpit farts" summary! Just my opinion. As worthwhile as anyone elses BTW, though you wouldn't think it from MN Massif response to my original post. Just sayin'. Anyway feel free to pay for these private musical lessons for your children, good luck.

Fakebook Mon 28-Jan-13 15:44:08

Why so smug OhLori? Weirdo.

OhLori Mon 28-Jan-13 15:43:16

UPDATE: Beatbox has been cancelled!

But I am sure if "Mumsnet Staines Massif" want to pay for their children privateley to experience this (as opposed to taxpayers' cash) there is now more availability ...

SilverBaubles33 Tue 15-Jan-13 12:32:42

I agree with the OP.

To my no doubt middle-aged ears it's not that far from making fart noises with your armpits.

My kids love it, both play mainstream instruments and sing for their school, so I don't think it will do any lasting damage.

Apparently Will Smith is brilliant at it. He could sway me..

icepole Tue 15-Jan-13 07:10:36

Please don't keep him off school. He will get so much more out of it than you think. Sessions like these can help build confidence, raise confidence in one area and you raise it across the board. If he enjoys it and gains new skills it will enhance his life. Might open up a new love for music or help to form or deepen friendships and it will be fun for him. Life should be fun, let him do it. He will be richer for it and so will you.

bea Mon 14-Jan-13 20:41:27

OP! Where are you!? Come back and see if we've changed your mind? smile

JennyPiccolo Mon 14-Jan-13 20:21:32

If a kid is considering a career in music, there's more money to be found in hip hop than in more traditional genres.

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