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tholeon Sun 09-Dec-12 19:07:54

We have a virulent sickness bug in our house, first person had it this time last week and last person has it at the moment. I have obviously told our cleaner about it and given her the option of not coming, assuming she won't want to risk the germs. What is the correct thing to do about paying her ? I have offered her half the money for staying away, but honestly don't know if this is fair. What's the verdict? She has been with us a few months and is good.

valiumredhead Mon 10-Dec-12 10:09:25

I would expect to be paid -or at least have the opportunity to make my hours up the following week.

tholeon Mon 10-Dec-12 10:07:37

Well we only have one recovering adult now and they are confined to a room, but I still wouldn't want to come if I was her. Don't think I would expect to be paid though, and she clearly doesn't either. But that doesn't mean I guess that the right moral thing is not to pay her, which is why I asked the question here. Thank you in particular for views of those who are/ were cleaners and those who employ them.
Better get on with the cleaning..

flow4 Mon 10-Dec-12 09:16:03

diddle, if this was your cleaner, you'd have to agree that she would come, but wouldn't be expected to clean the bathroom(s), toilet(s), kitchen, any bedroom that had had a sick person in it within 48 hours, and any other room where someone had been sick within 48 hours. That probably wouldn't leave much of your house!

And she might still get ill, because door handles and other surfaces also present an infection risk... And then you wouldn't get your house cleaned next week either... And the cleaner and her family might be ill over Christmas... And she would be rightly disgruntled or understandably angry, and you might soon lose a good cleaner...

Altogether, it's not reasonable to expect her to come, and it's just not worth the risk. The OP has done the right and sensible thing.

Sirzy Mon 10-Dec-12 09:13:12

Not wanting to be in a house full of people with a sickness bug isn't paranoid, it's sensible!

valiumredhead Mon 10-Dec-12 09:03:21

That's exactly why these things spread.

diddl Mon 10-Dec-12 09:02:20

Well that´s fine, & obviously the cleaner doesn´t want to either.

But if she wouldn´t be in close proximity & wouldn´t be cleaning up the D&V I can´t see a problem tbh.

I do get that these things spread easily, but I also think people can get too paranoid about stuff like this.

valiumredhead Mon 10-Dec-12 08:48:43

I wouldn't want to go into any house where there was a virulent sickness bug!

diddl Mon 10-Dec-12 08:43:21

"Usually, workplaces and schools insist that people with D&V stay away until 48 hours after they have stopped being ill, to stop illness spreading"

Yes, of course.

But if for example whoever is ill would be in bed & the cleaner could be working elsewhere.

valiumredhead Mon 10-Dec-12 08:39:00

Yes, pay her full amount.

OhlimpPricks Mon 10-Dec-12 08:26:10

On the flip side, If a cleaner is paying tax and NI on their earnings then if they are off sick, then they can claim SSP.

flow4 Mon 10-Dec-12 08:24:33

Effectively, there are people with D&V at her place of work. Usually, workplaces and schools insist that people with D&V stay away until 48 hours after they have stopped being ill, to stop illness spreading... Since the cleaner's workplace and the OP's home are one and the same, and the OP and her family obviously can't stay away, the cleaner should not be expected to come until 48 hours after the last family member is better.

Hope that's very soon, tholeon! And I'm glad you're doing the decent thing. smile

YoucanringmySleighBells Mon 10-Dec-12 08:20:55

I clean for someone one morning a week and they have told me twice now that they don't need me for a particular week the night before. I havn't been paid sad

Next time I take on a cleaning job I will state that I need paying if they cancel the hours althogether that week. I really needed the money as well.

diddl Mon 10-Dec-12 08:11:28

Well I can´t help wondering why she wouldn´t come in tbh.

Unless you all(?) being ill at home means that she can´t actually do her job?

tholeon Mon 10-Dec-12 07:58:29

Well she has replied saying she won't come but she feels bad being paid for not working. Will still pay her.

bamboostalks Sun 09-Dec-12 21:44:34

Well I wouldn't even mention a bug tbh. It wouldn't occur to me. I mean we're surrounded by bugs in our workplace all the time and she's wearing gloves.

tholeon Sun 09-Dec-12 21:38:28

Why all the assumptions I was a teenager working for pocket money? When I worked for a school I don't think anybody would have been very sympathetic if I had suggested not coming in because there was a sickness bug going round, even when I was pregnant. it just didn't seem clear cut to me which is why I asked for advice. When I posted a few months ago asking for advice about a dilemma with a previous cleaner everyone said I was being over generous, she was self employed, I wasn't responsible for her, blah blah.

I should let this go really..

BumpingFuglies Sun 09-Dec-12 21:13:17

You should pay her and don't let her come to your house. She doesn't get it and pass it on, you retain your cleaner and have the pleasure of doing the right thing. WIN=WIN smile

Redbindy Sun 09-Dec-12 20:47:36

Your cleaner is not (i hope) a teenage baby sitter. There is a moral contract even if you don't have a written one. Inneedofbrandy butter was right in her original assessment.

InNeedOfBrandyButter Sun 09-Dec-12 20:41:18

I think you took cow slightly to much to heart OP, sorry if Iv'e offended you I wouldn't of though cow would offend anyone. should stop calling my dd moo

trueblood1fan Sun 09-Dec-12 20:40:58

i doubt its casual work for pocket money though?! maybe you should have a contract/verbal agreement in place when you next see her?! :-)

tholeon Sun 09-Dec-12 20:37:00

Really upset at being called a cow actually which I guess means I shouldn't be posting on Aibu.. True cow like behaviour would have been just not to tell her, wouldn't it?! Was likening it to casual jobs I have had in the past, eg as regular babysitter, when I wouldn't have expected to be paid under similar circs. Anyway end of. I hope..

InNeedOfBrandyButter Sun 09-Dec-12 20:31:57

I would tell her not to come in, if she comes in and catches your bug she's going to be off sick and your house will never get clean.

and you did deserve the stingy cow comment sorry,

tholeon Sun 09-Dec-12 19:24:36
Well it is her decision not to come, I would be happy if she did

gordyslovesheep Sun 09-Dec-12 20:27:01

Pay her OR if you don't and she comes pay her when she is off sick in full

anything else is unreasonable

malteserzz Sun 09-Dec-12 20:26:14

We don't pay if ours don't come for any reason, they've always seemed fine with it I don't think they'd expect to be paid

trueblood1fan Sun 09-Dec-12 20:23:17

thankgod youve seen sense & are going to pay her :-)

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