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Contraception should be mandatory for both sexes until they have passed a fit for parenting exam: theory and practice.

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HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:21:47

I'm serious.

YoucanringmySleighBells Fri 07-Dec-12 11:27:15

I agree actually, although I don't think it will go down

bellarose2011 Fri 07-Dec-12 11:27:15

Maybe not a bad idea! Although just because you pass an exam doesn't mean you will be good parent.
Another criteria should be that the father off the child should actually want to be a father and not be married to someone else!

HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:28:33

Why won't it go down well?

You have to pass an exam for everything else, drive a car etc, why not to create a live human being? It doesn't make sense.

YoucanringmySleighBells Fri 07-Dec-12 11:28:56

OOh yes questions would be on the theory?

I would ask
Do you need sleep to survive? Yes or No
Do you enjoy having a pelvic floor? Yes or No

YoucanringmySleighBells Fri 07-Dec-12 11:29:48

Well isn't it a basic Human Right and Need to reproduce?

I agree with you though.

MrsJingleBells74 Fri 07-Dec-12 11:30:00

Not a bad idea but I don't see how you would enforce it

HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:30:25

It shouldn't be.

It's nonsense. How can it be a right?

HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:30:45

I would contracept everyone at 13.

Dawndonna Fri 07-Dec-12 11:30:56

My mother should not have been allowed to have children. She would have passed any exam available. As the local headteacher the bitch always got away with it.

HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:32:13

Oh dawn, that is sad.

Theory AND practice tho, and I guess full psychological assessment.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Dec-12 11:32:18

YY I will back that. Another question or two could be

Do you enjoy building things out of cardboard boxes for school projects and homework shouting? Yes or No?

Do you enjoy standing on the sidelines of a football pitch in minus temperatures watching children play football? Yes or No?

<it's been a bit of a week>

Myliferocks Fri 07-Dec-12 11:32:28

What about if somebody falls pregnant whilst using contraception but hadn't passed or even taken the exams?

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Fri 07-Dec-12 11:33:03

What would happen for contraception failure pregnancies?

Which contraception would be approved? I used a cervical cap and my GP was horrified (even when I never had an issue with it and I can't take hormonal pills for medical reasons).

And while it might seem like a good idea, any exam/text will be biased. You could make it as objective as possible, but people are subjective. The people affected would be the same already affected by eugenics policies. Those policies still cause pain around the world - multiple Indigenous American nations have practically collapsed due to the up to 80% of women being forcibly sterilized within our lifetimes. The main target of these have always been The Other, basically anyone who isn't a WASP.

The government should never have control over people's bodies.


HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:33:55

It would be unlikely. If it happened they would be regarded with the utmost mistrust and carefully monitored until exams were done and then after the birth too.

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Dec-12 11:33:55

They will need to do a crash course. Nine-ish months to revise Mylife smile

HullyEastergully Fri 07-Dec-12 11:34:31

Not sterilization, contraception.

SugarplumMary Fri 07-Dec-12 11:36:16

The worry is that someone will get to decide who is allowed DC - that people with disablies, genentic conditions how ever copable they might be or red hair or whatever then wouldn't be 'allowed' them.

YoucanringmySleighBells Fri 07-Dec-12 11:36:53

Hully - go and put together a full proposal with contingency plans and then we can all really get our teeth into the nitty-gritty.

Then with the full backing of MN we will change the world
<<manic laugh>>

lostconfusedwhatnext Fri 07-Dec-12 11:37:39

how would you contracept them? I am very dubious about hormonal contraception. Some people do very badly with it (general health and moods etc). Barrier methods are surely only voluntary. So I am not sure how this could reasonably be done

LalyRawr Fri 07-Dec-12 11:37:39

I was using two forms of contraceptive and still got pregnant!

But seriously, though this sounds great in theory, people's ideas of a good parent varies greatly. Who would decide what a 'good' parent is? Is a SAHM a better parent because they spend more time with their children, or is a Working Mum because she is earning for her family?

But isn't this what the adoption process is? & haven't we all criticised that because loving people were deemed to old/fat/gay to give an unwanted child a home?

I know this was meant to be lighthearted, so I'm sorry for ruining it!

Sparklingbrook Fri 07-Dec-12 11:38:09

Can't wait for this to be the topic on The Wright Stuff next week.

<waves to TWS researchers>

lostconfusedwhatnext Fri 07-Dec-12 11:38:10

Also, you could pass the exam, and then just choose to be a horrible parent, out of malice, or laziness.

HazleNutt Fri 07-Dec-12 11:39:05

YANBU. In Switzerland you need to pass a theory and practical exam to get a dog, so at least the same requirement for parents is very reasonable.

LunaticFringe Fri 07-Dec-12 11:39:40

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