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To want the school to give DD her medicine?

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cathkidstonbag · 06/11/2012 13:07

DD is in year 6. Unfortunately she gets a lot of ear/throat infections. Usually after 48 hours at home she's well enough for school. If she is on 4x a day antibiotics I send them in to her school office with a signed note. Just a syringe full of medicine not the bottle. At lunchtime she goes to the office, takes it, job done.

Today I've sent her in with it and get a phone call. Apparently new government guidelines mean that they can no longer do this. I have to either come up to the school (can't happen, I'm working!), or keep her home, for the full 10 day course.

I've phoned the drs who don't want to change her medicine as they want her on this one 4x a day.

Are there new guidelines on this? I don't ask them to administer the medicine, just keep it cold!

Aibu??

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squeakytoy · 06/11/2012 13:08

How old is year 6? cant she just take it herself?

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cathkidstonbag · 06/11/2012 13:09

She's 10. Apparently they can't keep medicine in their bag either and she doesn't want to get in trouble.

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ClaimedByMe · 06/11/2012 13:10

This has always been the guidelines since my dd started school and she is in P5 now, they will administer long term medicine but not antibiotics or calpol/nurofen.

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whois · 06/11/2012 13:10

That's redic. Surely the school has interpreted something wrong otherwise how will chronically Ill children be able to attend school?

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Bunbaker · 06/11/2012 13:13

Blimey. How unhelpful is that! This is PC gone mad.

The change in guidelines must have been very recent. DD is year 8 and when she was at primary school their policy was that they would administer prescribed medication, but not Calpol.

Can your daughter go to where the medicine is kept and just take it herself?

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FlibberdeGibbet · 06/11/2012 13:13

No such guidelines.... this is twaddle! The school should have a robust medicine policy. I can understand why they are wary of administering, but if their policy is sound, and their staff adequately trained there should be no problem.

I would suggest you write to the Headteacher in the first instance, asking for a copy of their medicine policy, then take it up with the Chair of Governors if you get no joy.

It is absolutely bonkers that a healthy child should be kept off school for the duration of a course of medication! The school would be the first to complain if you were taking her out for a 10 day term time holiday!

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ManifestingMingeHooHoosAgain · 06/11/2012 13:14

I would ask to see this 'rule' I bet it doesn't exist or they have mis-interpreted it.

Generally, they can give medicine if it is prescribed by a Dr (ie not just some calpol you are sending in yourself) and there should be a school policy which covers this.

Options - I would do plan A - ask to see this policy and insist she has the medicine at school - they supervise her self administering it maybe?

Or plan B - she has the medicine just before school, straight after school, after tea and last thing at night. Not ideal as the gaps between doses will be less than they should be ideally.

I would definitely not keep her off, if she is well enough to attend.

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BarbarianMum · 06/11/2012 13:14

A guideline is just that - a guideline. They don't have to follow it - and presumably don't for children who need regular insulin/asthma medication etc etc.

So challenge it - go in and argue your case. Are they saying that the doctor is wrong? Do they really want her to miss that much school every time she has an ear infection? Put these questions to them in person and in writing.

I had this last year w. ds1, who also gets difficult to shift ear infections. Within 2 days he was an 'exception' to the guideline. Smile

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WorraLiberty · 06/11/2012 13:17

I don't know anything about new guidelines

My DS's schools would be happy to administer it but not if you sent it in a syringe.

It has to be in it's original bottle with the child's name and date on.

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cathkidstonbag · 06/11/2012 13:17

It seems crazy to me when I'm not even allowed to take her out of school for a days holiday!! She doesn't need anyone to give it to her, just keep it cold. I'd be fine with it being in a cool bag on her peg even but that's not very safe obviously.

Do they really think I have nothing better to do than go to school every lunchtime? And if I keep her home every time she needs antibiotics it will be a lot of time off.

Will ask for their policy this afternoon.

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Justforlaughs · 06/11/2012 13:18

In my experience the school needs a form filled in EVERY time they administer medicine and even that used to drive me nuts. It does ott though. Is there anyone, friend or relative that could possibly go to the school and help out if necessary. I'd ask the school to write a letter explaining why THEY won't allow your child to go to school for when the truancy officer comes knocking!

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cathkidstonbag · 06/11/2012 13:19

The reason it's in a syringe is because I worry that she might forget the bottle and then miss the evenings doses. The letter I sent in says what it is and the dose she needs.

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GummiberryJuice · 06/11/2012 13:20

The whole time my dd was at primary school she was on eye drops she had 3 operations after these I had to drive to the school to adminster drops as school refused to do so it was a bloomin nightmare.

My fuel bill was a disgrace, it was 20 min round trip plus time spent it was an hour out of my day, thankfully I work from home not sure what I would have done if I was an employee somewhere. I got fed up and started to get up really early and going to bed really late to fit the doses in so I only had to go to the school once.

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EdsRedeemingQualities · 06/11/2012 13:21

Thanks for this thread, I was worried about asking school to give ds2 (5) his antibiotics for a poorly tooth.

I haven't asked them yet. If they say no, do I just keep him off for five days?!

Hope your dd is better soon.

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SamSmalaidh · 06/11/2012 13:21

Put it in writing to the Head and Chair of Governors. Clarify that they are unwilling to allow your DD to take prescribed medicine at school and so are forcing her to miss 10 days of education.

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cathkidstonbag · 06/11/2012 13:26

Eds- depends on the school. My youngest DD's school has a school nurse who is happy to administer medicine (and a cuddle). Never had a problem there. Sign a form that lasts the course of the medicine and that's all.

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EdsRedeemingQualities · 06/11/2012 13:33

Oh brill, thankyou for the advice x

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MrsDeterminedandSpecialMum · 06/11/2012 13:34

My DD's school is happy to administer medicine as long as it is prescribed. However, would need the bottle with the directions on.

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GhostShip · 06/11/2012 13:41

In a care home setting, you have to have signatures for giving medications out and everything has to be documented. I wondered why the same isn't for schools? I don't understand why teachers can just give meds out, but qualified people can't?

Which it has changed and why there's guidelines.

They can do so, but it's a load of palaver.

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GhostShip · 06/11/2012 13:43

The teachers giving out the medicine need training in how to do so properly, and have a form saying so.
Then the parental agreement for school to administer medicine has to be completed
Headteacher agreement of request form
Record of medicine administered to child..

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neolara · 06/11/2012 13:44

There should be a policy re medicines which has been agreed the governors. Please ask to see it.

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GhostShip · 06/11/2012 13:45

www.education.gov.uk/schools/pupilsupport/pastoralcare/b0013771/managing-medicines-in-schools

The relevant forms are on the 'connected to this' sidebar on that website OP, so you might want to have a look so you can speak to the school

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DeWe · 06/11/2012 13:55

Ours wouldn't do it in the syringe, I think. They have to see the bottle and be able to see it is what you say it is. Ask them if you send the bottle, if it's okay.

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thezoobmeister · 06/11/2012 14:00

My DDs school has the same policy. A complete PITA as I have to go in to give her antibiotics when she has a chest infection.

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EssexGurl · 06/11/2012 14:37

DS's school will give medicine but only if prescribed by a doctor and only if it is for more times than can fit in around school. So 3x a day they won't give - they expect you to do 1 before schoool, one straight after and one at bedtime. But if it is 4x a day they understand this is not feasible and will give it. But you have to sign a form with all the details of the medicine and take it / collect it from reception yourself.

Sounds like a sensible solution - if you can give it around school hours, you do, if you can't then they will help. Can;t you suggest that to your school?

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