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to think DS, almost 17, would be better getting a job

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frostythesnowlady Sun 04-Nov-12 15:06:27

than going to college.

All his scroaty mates are going to college to do Btechs in this and that.
DS hasn't got a clue what he wants to do and is just following the crowd saying he'll do a sport Btech with every man and his dog but wasn't even interested enough to go to open day at the college he says he's going to hmm

He's a sociable lad and he's into watersports hobbywise, and would like to do something like that as a job, but he's not academic enough to do a degree so I haven't a clue how he'd make a career out of something like that.

AIBU to think college isn't the best option for him?

Teabagtights Sun 04-Nov-12 15:10:23

The best option is the education. The better education he gets the better his job prospects. Do you want him working for McDonald's? That's all he be lucky to get without an education. Jobs are few and far between for youngsters as it is. You should want the best for your son not the worse. Besides he is 17 it's his decision to make not yours.

OHforDUCKScake Sun 04-Nov-12 15:11:30

I wasnt academic whatsoever at 16-17 but I got a degree later on in life. Dont under estimate his abilities. My Dad did this to me and it broke my heart.

WRT your question, let him decide.

RubyFakeNails Sun 04-Nov-12 15:11:38

I don't know anything really about working in sport, but I would think he needs to find out what the norm is in the industry. Are the majority of people doing the kind of jobs he wants to do qualified and if so in what. If they all have a sport btech or whatever then it makes sense to do it but if they don't and the norm is more specialised qualifications then he should make a decision about if he wants to pursue that career.

Otherwise I'd suggest doing something more general than sport, so A levels or a wider variety of subjects so that he doesn't limit himself while he works out what he wants to do.

What kind of jobs are there in watersports, can he do something part time and go to college?

mysteryfairy Sun 04-Nov-12 15:12:42

Where is he now? If he is almost 17 assume he finished gcses in the summer? Schools/colleges have been back for 2 months - has he been out of education and if so is he already working?

hlipop Sun 04-Nov-12 15:17:45

Teabagtights, I find it quite insulting that you assume people working in McDonalds are uneducated / lowly educated I am currently on the manager scheme and have to pass a series of tests and exams to pass the qualification - my business manager has a 1st degree in business management and earns over 75k per year - it is not a job to be snubbed!!

OP - maybe he could look for a weekend / evening job aswell as college? I know plenty of people that do this. Just a thought

poozlepants Sun 04-Nov-12 15:18:48

If he's not academic and he couldn't be bothered going to the open day he's unlikely to be motivated to make a real go of college at this stage. He'd be better to get a job- preferably in whatever area interests him but depend whats available. Then if he gets on -great- or if he sees that he will be stuck on the bottom rung without any qualifications he will be more likely to be motivated make a real go at college.
Otherwise you'll just be throwing good money on college fees. If he does eventually go to college a couple of years with work experience will do his CV good.

BoysBoysBoysAndMe Sun 04-Nov-12 15:26:05

What about an apprenticeship?

My brother got one at 16 on leaving school. A handful of crap graded gcse's.

He was coach building on crap money but he enjoyed it.

10 years later he now works in the offices for the same company as a design engineer, designing trailers for asda, Royal Mail etc

He earns more k a year than his age.

usualsuspect3 Sun 04-Nov-12 15:29:03

Do you think only scoaty people do BTechs then?

RyleDup Sun 04-Nov-12 15:38:13

What about swim teaching, lifeguard, something like that. Its not bad money.

maddening Sun 04-Nov-12 15:42:59

There are companies that specialise in sports such as kayaking, mountain sports and holiday/ adventure weekends etc could he volunteer / get work placements in addition to his sports btech - so showing him options relating to his interest and possibly keeping him on his course but with industry contacts for a meaningful career out of it?

cozietoesie Sun 04-Nov-12 15:43:05

College may not be the best place for him right now if he doesn't know what he really wants to do. He can always go back to college at a later stage if he wants - and with a few years of work under his belt, he'd likely make a better fist of it.

That's if he can get a job of course.

Whoknowswhocares Sun 04-Nov-12 15:46:15

My 19 year old son has completed an apprenticeship, has good quals and work experience. He is looking at any job locally and in London. 2 months in, 250 jobs applied for and just a couple of interviews!
You are being dangerously optimistic in his ability to find employment

gordyslovesheep Sun 04-Nov-12 15:52:29

direct him here and here

his school/college as a duty to provide independent careers advice and guidance - talk to them

He needs to go through his ideas and options and make an informed choice

sadly the services that do provide support and IAG to young people have all but disappeared

careergirl Sun 04-Nov-12 16:07:49

The trouble is jobs for sixteen year olds are so hard to find. My employer takes on sixteen year olds and they undertake NVQ's for two years until eighteen so effectively learn on the job always more candidates than places though!
Would a coaching qualification suit him for teaching swimming etc?

CookingFunt Sun 04-Nov-12 16:12:01

Teabag my sister is now very high up in McDonalds after starting there some years ago as a teen. She did terribly in her exams but has nothing but success in the working world. So please keep your derogatory comments about fast food workers to yourself.

Tuttutitlookslikerain Sun 04-Nov-12 16:13:27

Lots of young people are doing BTechs in sport at the college DS1 goes to. I have no idea what they lead to, but surely doing one would be better for him that being on the dole, or lazing around?

Jobs for young people are really, really hard to find at the moment, even Saturday jobs.

You are his parent you should be encouraging him to do something and find something he is interested in!

scottishmummy Sun 04-Nov-12 17:01:17

it's up to him to chose career/education surely?
by all means you know your son,but don't push your preference
what does he think,has he had career advice?

Mrsjay Sun 04-Nov-12 17:22:20

he could do both get a job go to colleg he could work at an outdoor centre or something let him decide jobs are hard to come by he might not find a job so easy full time , encourage him to do what he likes what about an appretiship (sp) or something

rogersmellyonthetelly Sun 04-Nov-12 18:05:52

I think anyone going to college without at least some idea of the job they want to do at the end of it is bloody pointless tbh. He can always try to get a job or get some work experience for now, and then go back to college in a year when he has a better idea of what he wants to do with his life/career.
Going to college because his friends are isn't a good reason, nor likely to motivate him to work hard.
Never underestimate the value of work and real life experience. Someone who is willing, hard working and wants to get on will generally succeed, regardless of their btech or lack of.

WofflingOn Sun 04-Nov-12 18:20:30

Your education is free up to 19, but if he wanted to do a course when he's 20, wouldn't he have to pay?

CaliforniaLeaving Sun 04-Nov-12 19:00:29

My SIL works for McDonalds too, she started at 16 and is earning over 100,000 a year now, she manages the managers of about 25 (probably more) stores now. One down from the CEO/owner of all the stores around us. She finished high school and never went to college McDonalds trained her and sent her on their own courses so it's not a bad thing.
Ds got into college to do a foundation degree this year, he immediately started having problems, (big move to a new to him country UK and no friends only family) So he has delayed till next year and is spending a year working at a local brewhouse pub/restaurant. Sometimes they just need a year of work to sort themselves out and decide what it is they really want to do.
If he can find a job he may find that works better for him till he knows what it is he wants to do.

midseasonsale Sun 04-Nov-12 19:34:00

he needs to do one of these computer questionnaires about careers? His local college will have access to this sort of thing in the student support area. Alternatively you could google psychometric and careers tests yourself and he can do them from home.

gordyslovesheep Sun 04-Nov-12 20:48:24

computer aided stuff is fine but needs to be used correctly with support from somebody qualified to give it

it's not enough on it's own - just a starting point

Bonsoir Sun 04-Nov-12 20:49:24

He can be a sports instructor surely? When we go on holiday we employ ski instructors/wakeboard instructors/tennis instructors etc and they are all really nice hard-working young men (mostly - only a few girls).

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