to think that sleep regression and the virgin gut are a recent phenomena

[FunnysInLaJardin]

they didn't exist when I had DS1 7 years ago and so I think they can't be true.

[EntWife]

yanbu!

[NotInMyDay]

I have a feeling this might not end well. But I do think it's a good point worth discussing. I tread the line somewhere in the middle of advances-in-science-are-wonderful-and-keep-us-alive and there-is-way-too-much-information-available-to-us-what-happened-to-nature-and-instinct?

[nocake]

Just because people didn't know about something 7 years ago doesn't mean it didn't exist.

[SirBoobAlot]

Not too long ago, we also used to think that smoking was good for us, that coloured people had a lower IQ, and that women didn't deserve the vote.

Just because we know different now, doesn't make those wrong.

[FunnysInLaJardin]

sleep regression isn't true is it? DS2 didn't have it either. Maybe put disturbed sleep down to a growth spurt but it didn't have a formal name

[CakePops]

What on earth is a virgin gut?

[FunnysInLaJardin]

and the virgin gut thing is just bollocks

[maddening]

And apparently the world is round - it's lies and poppycock I tell ya ;)

[WorraLiberty]

What's a virgin gut?

One that hasn't been fucked by junk food and chocolate?

[Aboutlastnight]

Sleep regression was just 'being a baby' when DD1 was little, eight years ago.

What the hell is ' virgin gut?'

[FunnysInLaJardin]

Cake it's to do with EBF and not weaning until 21. Don't know what benefits it brings though. Still some seem vair concerned to keep the ole virgin gut intact, until granny gives pub a chocolate button that is

[EndoplasmicReticulum]

The virgin gut thing was around as a theory 7 years ago, my son is 7 too and I remember reading about it.

[SamSmalaidh]

Virgin gut is the theory that introducing foreign (non-breastmilk) proteins into a newborn/young baby's gut damages the lining and makes it more susceptible to infection I think - I am not sure what the evidence for that is.

4 month sleep regression has surely been around forever? In the old days people took it as a sign of hunger so weaned, nowadays people are more likely to put it down to developmental changes in the brain.

[Viperidae]

YANBU to the point that I don't even know what they are.

[Quadrangle]

How do you know the virgin gut is bollocks? It's a strange argument that anything new we find out about the human body must be bollocks because we didn't know about it 7 years ago. Medicine would never move on if we all thought like that.

[LadyWidmerpool]

Agree with SirBoob.

My parents put me in a carrycot on the back seat of their car and weaned me on egg. However they accept that best practice has changed in the past 35 years.

[HoneyDragon]

I think we had the same problems, but terms change.

Like Baby Led weaning, Baby Wearing, Quality time and so forth.


I think the concept of a formal name for things is more to do with ever expanding communication, we have more use for blanket terms.

[FunnysInLaJardin]

see About 7 years ago twas the same. Now you have 4 month sleep regression, 9 month sleep regression and 18 month sleep regression. NO they are babies, they don't always sleep well. There is no need to label it as then you have to find a solution

[Aboutlastnight]

It's like BLW - it was called 'finger food' when I was weaning DD1.

[gerardbutlersthighs]

Whatever happened to baby eats milk sleeps shits and cries for approximately 6 months and you just muddle through it as best you can in a sleep deprived state?

When did parenting require a doctorate with an advanced thesis in psychobabble?

[nocake]

Sleep regression is just a name for something that has always happened with many babies at about 4 months. Call it what you want but it's always existed.

[gordyslovesheep]

not weaning till 21!!! holy heck - that IS extreme BF

[EndoplasmicReticulum]

Is there proper evidence for the virgin gut theory? I remember being unconvinced seven years ago when I was reading about it.

[FunnysInLaJardin]

Quad I just have a feeling in my water that the VG thing is bollocks. Tis all. DS1 is nearly 7. Poor thing with his unvirgined gut

[Annunziata]

I occasionally wonder how my DC survived when I read things on here