to wish that the pelvic toner advert would vanish....now!

[Hanikam]

I like to read mumsnet during quiet moments at work.
That stupid advert for the pelvic toner pops up at awkward moments.
Who says "50% of mothers have weak bladders / pelvic intolerance?"
As compared to who? non-mothers, population as a whole (including men, who might have trouble inserting the damned thing.....rectal toner maybe?)

Don't want people to look at me like I'm someone who regularly wets her knickers.
so, aibu?

[catgirl1976]

Everytime I see it I squuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzze

[catgirl1976]

PS - It doesn't need a comparative.

It says "50% of mothers". So that's fine as it is. Doesn't need to be compared to anyone to make sense

[WorraLiberty]

Only a few months ago I would have said YANBU

But after reading a long thread about trampolines, I was absolutely stunned at how many posters said they couldn't bounce on a trampoline without peeing themselves?!?

So perhaps they have their statistics right?

[SheppySheepdog]

It is vaguely insulting isn't it?! Not sure why.

[LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance]

Well if anyone tells me it works from their own experience, they can have £25 of my money! And the money of a fair few of my frieds tbh!

[PelvicFloorClenchReminder]

[SoleSource]

I have the Athenafem device.

[LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance]

I had the TensCare battery powered do-dah.

Broke it

[monkeysbignuts]

It looks like a scary metal vibrator!

[edwinbear]

Kegal8. Despite an anterior and posterior prolapse so bad, the speculum on Thursdays smear test kept falling out, I have never had a wee related incident.

[LesleyPumpshaft]

To be fair, before I was a mum I sneezed and a little bit of wee came out.

[Meglet]

.

A friend had a CS 4 months ago and she was over-sharing on FB about her ruined pelvic floor, another friend had lovely home births but she said she can't run anymore. I don't have problems but I reckon 50% could be right.

[LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance]

No good for me, Edwin. The 'probe' is the same as the TensCare and I could never get it in the right place iyswim. Too high = no benefit, too low = electroctuting my fanjo.
Ouch.
£170 for the athenafem is out of the question SoleSource.

Come on, someone must have tried the one that's advertised. Don't be shy.

[LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance]

electrocuting

electrotuting is something completely different

[BertieBotts]

I was a bit to see it on the feminism section, for some reason.

[LesleyPumpshaft]

It's only shocking in the feminism section if it's aimed at women wanting to 'please' their DP's and DH's with a tighter vag. Nothing wrong with not wanting to wee yourself when you jump up and down though.

[ChaosTrulyReigns]

You see it at work?



I thought it was only on after the watershed.

[LesleyPumpshaft]

I keep seeing it too. It's a bit of a cuss tbh. Sort of like saying that you are an incontinent, over-the-hill old bag who will prolly end up in Tena Lady pads unless you buy this special fanjo machine.

[ChaosTrulyReigns]

Ach, cmon.

^^That was a brilliant post.

[MadBusLady]

[MrsKeithRichards]

Someone once mentioned (might have been on the trampoline thread) that they purchased one for each new mum they knew as a gift.

[MmeLindor]

I follow a wonderful woman on Twitter who says that a third of women will have a wee problem in their lives.

She tweets me to do my exercises. Better than shelling out £25 for that thing.

[olgaga]

Whatever happened to pelvic floor exercises? You can scrunch whenever you like for as long as you like - why fork out for an expensive dildoesque contraption?

I speak as one who literally pissed herself laughing once playing swingball, time and perseverance is all you need.

[slowestwildebeast]

every time a thread like this comes up i think yabu.
I'm sick of clenching. :)

[gussiegrips]

Mmm Lindor - blush

Right, girls, hunker down.

The FACT is that 1:3 of mumsnet readership piss themselves. If you want references, I'll happily PM them to you - but meanwhile, reflect that tena is Big Business, and that exists for a reason.

And, Hanikam I am glad you don't have this bother. But, look at your pals. A third of them wee when they squee.

They are embarrassed. Their self esteem suffers. They become depressed. Their sex life dissolves - apart from worrying that she is reeking of pish, she's got no hope of having an orgasm because her saggy muscles won't let her. They stop going out to play incase they need a wee and disgrace themselves in public - because, the fact is that it is excruciatingly embarrassing.

But, if a THIRD of us do it - why should that be? And, by the way, that's a third of women aged 35-55. Once you are over 55 it's 50%. Don't think that not having had kids will save you. Or that having casearians will. These are risk factors, not insurance policies.

And, whilst I've I'm on my high horse - it's not just wee. Women poo themselves. You get yourself a hernia in your vagina like a rectocele and you might find you can't poo, or are fecally incontinent. Ghastly way to live, you either shove it all back up there with your fingers inside your vagina, or you use a tool, or you get yourself a douche prescribed. Oh yeah, and you can have your bladder sitting in the way, or the whole jingbang can just fall right out.

Did you all know that? No, course not. That's my fault. I'm a physio, and my profession does not do enough to teach you all about WHY you need to know about your pelvic floor and why you want to have a smashing one.

A third of us have pelvic floor weakness. Of that third, 40% have prolapses. It's a political disgrace that women are living with these distressing, painful, unrelenting conditions. These are women you know. Women who laugh about trampolines as being an unobtainable ambition, but who might not be sharing that they pish themselves during sex.

And, yes, menfolks have duff pelvic floors too. Got a man who farts when he gets up out of the chair? Drives you crazy with his skid marks? Dribbles all over your bathroom floor? Has premature ejaculation? He doesn't need to put up with it either... but men's continence is even more of a taboo than ours.

I want a mumsnet campaign. The good thing is that, just doing yerblardyexercises WILL help and can cure (depending on whether you've just got stress incontinence or have prolapse, and to which degree that is)...who's with me? I have woad.

Seriously though - don't put up with it. See your GP. See a women's health physio, a continence nurse, or feel free to PM me.

Don't ignore it. Google image "vaginal prolapse" if you need convincing. And, let's bust this taboo. I love the smell of taboo busting in the morning....

(best not do that google search at work, kai?)