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To want a big dog...?

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Cassettetapeandpencil Thu 13-Oct-11 21:16:43

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buzzskeleton Thu 13-Oct-11 21:20:49

I'd wait until the kids were bigger tbh. A puppy and 3 under 3 would be so much work, I'd wait until the children were old enough that the only poo I was picking up was the puppy's.

prioneyes Thu 13-Oct-11 21:21:42

YABU to think that the dog will be good with kids because of its breed. It will only be good with kids if it has a suitable temperament, is carefully socialised, well trained and your kids know how to behave around it. I think they're really too young to be expected to behave properly around dogs, especially puppies.

It's nothing to do with the size of the dog, but the situation you're proposing to bring a puppy into. It's not ideal.

Birdsgottafly Thu 13-Oct-11 21:22:02

It's whether things are going to change as the children get older.

It isn't the size of the dog but the amount of care that the breed needs and if you can meet those needs for whatever the usual lifespan is.

I don't see what business it is of anyone else, did you ask their advice before you had your children? It is up to you and your DH to decide what you can manage.

baskingseals Thu 13-Oct-11 21:22:38


i have a big black labrador who is like a buddhist.
really want a Newfoundland.
big is better.

do it - don't worry about other people, my dog is one of the best things about my life.

Kayano Thu 13-Oct-11 21:23:02

3 kids under 3?!
Well bloody done grin
Do whatever you want lol

prioneyes Thu 13-Oct-11 21:23:47

Also, it won't keep you any safer than your existing dog does - ie it won't keep you safe. Dogs aren't PPE you know hmm

Birdsgottafly Thu 13-Oct-11 21:24:05

Also i meant to ask, why do you ned a big dog to feel safe?

I have had idiot lads try to get theirs to fight with mine because it is a GS.

chickentikkatellmethetruth Thu 13-Oct-11 21:25:16 general rule of thumb is to never own a dog you couldn't be sure you'd beat in a fight.

As long as you're not breaking that rule then I say go for it.

NorkyPies Thu 13-Oct-11 21:32:48

What's PPE? (Not on the acronym list) pretty please? smile

Cassettetapeandpencil Thu 13-Oct-11 21:33:29

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Cassettetapeandpencil Thu 13-Oct-11 21:35:13

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baskingseals Thu 13-Oct-11 21:38:35

just to say i got my puppy just before i found out i was pregnant with dc3

it's the same old story, if you want something something enough, it can be done, the hard work is worth it.

GarrottingItLaldy Thu 13-Oct-11 21:42:37

Dedicated big dog person here (and Newfoundland owner smile )

In all honesty, I'd wait until your children are a bit bigger....particularly if you are planning to get a puppy rather than an older dog. Large breeds are 'puppy' much longer than small therefore have much longer to endure the awful adolescent. Little children can easily accidentally get hurt by big exhuberant puppies and become fearful of them. I've seen many dogs of my breed end up in rescue by 8 months of age or so for this very reason.

GarrottingItLaldy Thu 13-Oct-11 21:50:25

I would also add that many reputable breeders will not allow a puppy to go to a home where there are very small children. Puppies are really, really hard work and good breeders who have put their heart and soul into breeding a quality, healthy litter want the very best homes for pups where they will get lavished with attention they need. Some (probably many) will consider that, with 3 very small children, the puppy would have to compete for attention too much. So be prepared to be grilled and interrogated (at best) and maybe even knocked back (at worst) until your children are older.

Not trying to be negative, BTW...I just know several good breeders who wouldn't consider your circumstances to be ideal for one of their pups and you should be prepared to come up against this attitude when contacting breeders.

Cassettetapeandpencil Thu 13-Oct-11 21:54:08

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prioneyes Thu 13-Oct-11 22:00:06

I find it bizarre that you need a dog to keep you safe. I regret that in your view this renders my advice less useful than the next person's. You did ask.

DogsBeastFiend Thu 13-Oct-11 22:04:14

Fair warnings from prion and Lady.

I'd also be concerned that although you are used to accommodating an adult dog in your busy lives a pup will be far, far more hard work and need someone around much more, both for his sake wrt to company and, long term for ALL your sakes wrt training, toilet training and so on. Not sure how you might achieve that comfortably given what you say about the amount of outside of the home work which you and DH do (unless one or both of you work from home fof course, in which case I'm talking rollocks!).

That said, I had a large and a medium size dog in the home from the moment my 2 DC (also close in age) were born and I was and am a lone parent so it's by no means impossible, lots of us cope IF we are willing to put the work in, change our lifestyles to accomodate the dogs and not give up when things get like hard work. smile

As a rescuer, going on just what you've said, I'd be dubious to rehome to someone in your shoes and would take a fair bit of convincing that you could cope.

Also, a large breed is no indication of protection, particularly if you're going for a pup - you have no idea HOW he'll turn out. I have had my younger GSD since he was a tiny scrap - a bigger wuss you'd be hard pushed to find! But I had no idea how much of a chicken he was going to be and how little he would turn out true to his guarding roots until he grew up (not that that's what I wanted in a dog).

If you want another dog in your circumstances I'd suggest an adult dog, past the terrible adolescent stage, from a reputable breed rescue.

(Intrigued as to what breed you'd like, just so I can get misty eyed and jealous, though I appreciate why you don't want to say of course).

baskingseals Thu 13-Oct-11 22:24:23

really misty eyed and jealous of garrotinglady.

charlearose Fri 14-Oct-11 20:31:38

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thatsenough Fri 14-Oct-11 21:06:26

Another Newfie owner here (as well as a GSD cross and a beagle/Bassett cross).

I won't lie - Newfoundlands are nuts, but great fun and a fantastic family pet. We got ours when DS3 was around 6 months and haven't had any really problems other than her knocking the boys over on occasion.

pud1 Fri 14-Oct-11 21:13:08

I have 2 dd under 3 and a boxer dog. I would not like a small dog as I fing them yappy and to lively. My boxer is fantastic with kids and very chilled when at home. He is 7 now so has chilled out with age but as long as he gets his decent walks he is very happy.

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