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should the lollipop man be smoking?

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biddysmama Wed 05-Oct-11 09:24:30

i live across from the school and the lollipop man stands in front of my window.

he usually has 2 cigarretes while he's there

aibu to think he should wait and its not showing the children a good example?

YANBU

southeastastra Wed 05-Oct-11 09:25:23

i'd be chuffed to have a lollipop man at all, certainly wouldn't begrudge him a fag or two

ClartyScutter Wed 05-Oct-11 09:26:54

probably not - but people smoke

do you count them grin

sunnydelight Wed 05-Oct-11 09:27:10

Complain. No doubt he'll lose his job and you won't have a lollipop man anymore. Complain to the local paper about loss of lollipop man...........

GypsyMoth Wed 05-Oct-11 09:28:18

He's at work, so no he should not be!

Where is he throwing the ends when he's finished?

pozzled Wed 05-Oct-11 09:29:01

YANBU. Anyone whose job is based around children should not smoke 'on duty' IMO. It's not as though he has a very long shift, he's probably there for what, an hour?

BeerTricksPotter Wed 05-Oct-11 09:29:41

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

biddysmama Wed 05-Oct-11 09:34:05

usually about 45 mins and i dont need to count, if my windows open i can smell them
i used to be a ta when i had a life and i smoked but we had to go off school premises where the children wouldnt see us

ClartyScutter Wed 05-Oct-11 09:35:33

but if he's in the road, he's already off school premises grin

twinklingfairy Wed 05-Oct-11 09:36:15

YANBU I would be extremely crossangry if I saw that happening.
Does he wait until there are no children about. I guess that might make it a bit more acceptable, but honesty.....*NO*!
As the others have said, he is not here for long, surely he can hold off. If not, get another job.
I would be calling the council. I doubt he will immediately be sacked. Just warned.
And that can't be a bad thing.

aldiwhore Wed 05-Oct-11 09:36:31

I don't think its acceptable really, and I say that as a smoker. Unless he's having a quick one when there's no children around.

MrsBuntyCuldeSacFunnyLady Wed 05-Oct-11 09:37:50

As long as he has a hand free for his lollipop, does it matter?

Now for my sensible response - YANBU. He is working around children, he shouldn't be smoking.

OTheHugeWerewolef Wed 05-Oct-11 09:38:23

Yes. Complain. Perhaps you can get him sent for compulsory psychotherapy to adjust his attitude. And you could always get him chucked in the gulag if that doesn't work.

Seriously, if that's the most serious thing you have to worry about then get a grip and find something constructive to do.

slartybartfast Wed 05-Oct-11 09:39:33

i wouldnt worry about it.
no, he shouldnt.
but you dont want to lose your lolly pop man. we lost ours. and they tend not to replace them.

pozzled Wed 05-Oct-11 09:43:29

"if that's the most serious thing you have to worry about then get a grip and find something constructive to do"

I really don't understand why people post this. Just because something isn't earth-shatteringly bad, we can't disapprove or make a comment on MN? Better close the whole site down then.

It's not the worst thing in the world, but it shouldn't happen. Those people who think it's ok, would you be happy with a teacher smoking on playground duty or a kid's football coach smoking while working? Is it ok for any job, or only some?

SeenButNotHeard Wed 05-Oct-11 09:44:56

I wouldn't want to lose our lolly pop man, but then, I wouldn't want to see him smoking either.

If it bothers you (and it clearly does) I would go into school and ask them to have a word. School will want to keep him, so are unlikely to go down any formal routes, but he will get the message that it is not OK to smoke on the job.
I would not tell the LA who employ him - if it is anything like mine, any breach of this policy could result in disciplinary action and could lead to dismissal.

onagar Wed 05-Oct-11 09:47:50

Get him sacked if you can. If not then accidentally run him over as a lesson to the others.

People have no right to do perfectly legal things that you don't like.

slartybartfast Wed 05-Oct-11 09:49:58

where i am it is the school that does the disciplining, hiring and firing.

squeakytoy Wed 05-Oct-11 09:51:19

I would be more worried if he had a hip flask of scotch and was sipping away on that, as that would be something that may impair his judgement and put the children at risk.

Francagoestohollywood Wed 05-Oct-11 09:51:51

You are kidding, right?

SharrieTBGinzatome Wed 05-Oct-11 09:57:29

Message withdrawn

Floggingmolly Wed 05-Oct-11 09:57:48

No he shouldn't. He works for the council, so it's against the rules anyway, and he works in close proximity to school children which is a big no no. Report him to the school.

SharrieTBGinzatome Wed 05-Oct-11 09:58:23

Message withdrawn

slartybartfast Wed 05-Oct-11 10:00:51

oh i have a good idea <<lightbulb>.

if you are brave enough, have a word with the Lollypop man himself? Say do you think you should be smoking? do the school let you smoke>?
that shoudl shame him

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