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Taking a stand against hate towards and exploitation of premature children and their families.

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Agix Mon 03-Oct-11 18:36:14

Hello there Mumsnet. We hope to find you all well!

We are writing this post today to raise awareness of an issue that has popped up. We feel it is incredibly important to spread the word. I'll give you a run down.

A famous YouTube personality (male) is currently in a relationship with a Canadian teenage pop singer (female). This teenage girl, the pop singer, recently posted a photo of a premature child, insinuating it was her male child, and that he had tragically died as a result of premature birth. Hundreds (maybe hundreds of thousands considering the size of their combined fanbases) of people saw this. However, it was soon found out that this child was not hers - and (thankfully) not deceased. The photo had infact been taken (WITHOUT PERMISSION OR KNOWLEDGE) from another mother on the internet, of her little baby girl, for the purpose of lying and garnering attention/sympathy towards the pop singer/the couple.

Now, of course, famous people pull silly stunts all the time. However, the fact that this picture was taken without permission and extremely unrespectfully declared the innocent baby dead caused many, many people to try and get an apology for the act, specifically for the mother of the child and the child herself (who is alive and well at four years old).

Shockingly, while the pop singer has kept quiet apart from very cruel posts about this situation (including calling anyone who questions her about this 'c***s and b*****s') and is being protected by her partner, her parter has posted videos on his YouTube channel denying it ever happened, while at the same time forcefully insulting mothers of premature children and being extremely abusive. I short, they are trying to avoid responsibility, giving an apology and bullying mothers all over the world into submission and to 'keep quiet'.

We, as a large group of people who want to speak up about this, feel that this is entirely unreasonable - especially considering their fanbases are made up of very impressionable young teenagers. We want to spread the word to see if people agree with us that this is awful behaviour, the cover up is disgusting, and we will NOT be abused into submission just because they are 'famous', 'protected' and we mothers are not.

Here is his video on the subject after he recieved emails from angry mothers (Please keep in mind both these videos have STRONG abusive language aimed towards mothers, and offensive body language).
youtu.be/OWyfqNCAcfA
Just to clarify, he is lying. The photo was up for about a month before it was found out to be a lie. He is in full knowledge of this stunt. This has all been proven with the help of people who are 'tech savvy'. He is trying to cover his tracks. He knows everyone knows, this video is solely made for the purpose of using bullying tactics to keep people quiet.
This is his half-assed apology for how abusive he was to mothers of premature children in that previous video:
youtu.be/rUUbYgnw5wA
As you can see, not an apology at all.

This is a very brave mother of a premature child who is speaking out publicly, acting out as spokes person for the rest of us. She is not famous. She is not a YouTube star. She is "just" a mother.
youtu.be/9a8dEN5EWII

If any of you feel strongly about this, we would very much appreciate it if those of you with Youtube accounts can give this mother support as our spokesperson. We understand some of you may not feel so strongly. What are your thoughts on this?

The many, many of us offended by this do not feel we are being unreasable asking for an apology, standing up for ourselves, and trying to get rid of the cover up. We feel we are being entirely reasonable, but as mothers (and many, many other individuals) we are being bullied.

EricNorthmansMistress Mon 03-Oct-11 18:40:24

Who are these people? confused

JaneFonda Mon 03-Oct-11 18:43:21

Err, what?

troisgarcons Mon 03-Oct-11 18:44:16

Shiloh - shes a support act for Lady Gaga and Katy Perry - no idea who her partner is though

worraliberty Mon 03-Oct-11 18:45:54

Surely this isn't about premature children and their families...but more about 'stealing' photos from the internet?

Unless I've it totally wrong?

troisgarcons Mon 03-Oct-11 18:45:56

Not sure, Op you can be bullied by proxy.

Not your business. Its for the mother of the infant to take litigation. I stopped being morally outraged on behalf of other people a long time a ago.

ChooChooWowWow Mon 03-Oct-11 18:46:40

My dc are around at the moment so taking into account the strong language I will view your links later and return.

Sounds awful though so this is a little bump for you.

Agix - who are you and who is we?

I am a parent who has lost a baby to prematurity and a baby to stillbirth.

I've come across a lot of hoaxers and this sounds awful.

HengshanRoad Mon 03-Oct-11 18:48:20

Sounds like over-inflated American crap to me.

activate Mon 03-Oct-11 18:49:34

Why would I feel strongly about this?

When you post a picture on facebook anybody can download it and use it for any nefarious requirements they have.

Many people, particularly semi-celebrities, on the internet are twats of the highest order

The best response is no response

Turn your computer off - it helps

BeerTricksPotter Mon 03-Oct-11 18:52:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

slavetofilofax Mon 03-Oct-11 18:52:22

How is someone stealing a picture from the internet for some sick publicity stunt the same as hate, exploitation and bullying of premature children and their families?

I don't get it. confused

diddl Mon 03-Oct-11 18:56:31

I also don´t get the connection.

To pretend that someone else´s baby is yours-isn´t that an offence?

How did they get hold of the pics?

troisgarcons Mon 03-Oct-11 18:58:36

To pretend that someone else´s baby is yours-isn´t that an offence?

There was implication (apparently) ..... I dont see how it can be an offence to lift a public picture and republish it. Be a bit different if they nipped into a SCBU and took photos.

Ah it's all silly bolleux really isnt it?

GypsyMoth Mon 03-Oct-11 18:59:23

All a bit far fetched isn't it?

WorzselMummage Mon 03-Oct-11 19:00:50

I've had 2 premature children and I don't really get what you're going on about.

stripeybump Mon 03-Oct-11 19:01:06

I ain't clicking - 'youtu.be' hmm

GypsyMoth Mon 03-Oct-11 19:01:32

Think it's best to left to die it's own death really, I have 3 teens, none of them have heard of this. Keeping it in the public eye seems unjustified to me

freybean Mon 03-Oct-11 19:03:05

i'm confused hmm

onagar Mon 03-Oct-11 19:11:00

The thread title makes no sense.

RumourOfAHurricane Mon 03-Oct-11 19:12:12

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RumourOfAHurricane Mon 03-Oct-11 19:13:49

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I'm not clicking the links.

As I said, too many hoaxers about and this sounds weird.

If this Shiloh person has faked the loss of a baby with stolen photo's then that is truly disgusting and vile.

But without knowing who the OP is and with such dodgy looking links there's no way anyone should be clicking them.

Miette Mon 03-Oct-11 19:18:31

Oh damn. I didn't notice the youtu.be thing and did click on the first one, but didn't watch much. Hope I'm not infected with a virus! angry

RumourOfAHurricane Mon 03-Oct-11 19:18:52

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