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AIBU to be upset and think this is unfair

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woowoo2 Wed 07-Sep-11 12:38:05

My landlord has just emailed me to say he won't be continuting my tenancy when it ends as his friend wants to move in to the property.

When we moved in, he assured me that it would be a home for the forseeable future and now he just wants me out so his friend can rent it instead.

storminabuttercup Wed 07-Sep-11 12:39:43

Not BU to be upset, but it's his house unfortunately it's his say! sad how long do you have to find somewhere?

GypsyMoth Wed 07-Sep-11 12:39:49

Oh no! Hope you can find somewhere new easily!

mummymccar Wed 07-Sep-11 12:41:50

Upsetting but unfortunately legal as long as he has given you adequate notice according to your contract. Do you have long to find somewhere new?

itisnearlysummer Wed 07-Sep-11 12:44:56

Yep, people in this country should be more like our European counterparts and be happy to rent and not so fixed on buying... hmm

This is why renting is so undesirable in this country!

YANBU to be upset or think it is unfair, he appears to have gone back on a gentleman's agreement which is a bit shitty.

Hope you find somewhere else soon. x

YANBU to be upset but it's his house and if he doesnt want to re-new the tenancy thats up to him, he isnt doing anything wrong.

Still annoying for you though but one of the pitfalls in being a tenant.

ChippingIn Wed 07-Sep-11 12:50:40

YANBU to be upset when he led you to believe it would be a long term arrangement sad

I hope you find somewhere quickly.

CustardCake Wed 07-Sep-11 12:53:47

YANBU and I agree with itisnearlysummer. The desire to own and not rent is driven by this habit of (some) landlords to continually move tenants on and the lack of security you have when you rent. My BIL had 3 house moves forced on him in 18 months with all the costs that involves because each time the landord decided they wanted to sell up or move a relative in or move back in themselves and gave notice after just a few months.

LRDTheFeministDragon Wed 07-Sep-11 12:54:06

Annoying, but 'foreseeable future' in that context means what it says, I guess. He expected you'd be able to stay and now something's come up and you can't. That's renting.

Humourme Wed 07-Sep-11 13:06:04

Tough. My sympathy. The same happened to me many years ago. I was six months pregnant at the time and we only found somewhere else to live at the very last moment. It was very stressful. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do except live and learn. There's some hard people out there and they think nothing of lying at the drop of a hat if it suits themsad

slavetofilofax Wed 07-Sep-11 13:10:13

YANBU to be upset, but it's not unfair if it sticks to the terms in your contract.

I have heard of many arragnements like this between friends going wrong though. Either tennant making late payments or ruining something, ll taking too long to fix a problem or whatever, its hard to sustain a friendhip when problems arise in a business relationship. He will probably regret it when you have moved n and have settled somewhere new.

miniwedge Wed 07-Sep-11 13:10:51

He didn't lie, he said the forseeable future. At the time he probably didn't forsee he would want to rent to his friend.

I'm sorry you're upset but it's his house and you have to move on when he gives notice.

woowoo2 Wed 07-Sep-11 13:12:46

Its so shitty, I honestly feel like crying. I have been moved on by arsehole landlords so many times selling their property/moving back in.

When will me and ds feel secure and not have feel like gypsies!?

Tanif Wed 07-Sep-11 13:17:53

YANBU it's not so much the moving that would annoy me it's the associated costs. Now you not only need to find somewhere, you need to find agents fees and a months rent up front for a deposit. Not exactly easy when you won't get the deposit back on your old place straight away.

JodieHarsh Wed 07-Sep-11 13:19:51

Shit. I'm so sorry sad

Renting is hideous from this perspective. You have my every sympathy.

Quick tip if you'll bear with me: when we moved into our current flat the letting agent suggested we ask for a 2 year lease, saying the landlord would take a slight reduction in rent for the improved security from his POV. It meant we were all happy.

I guess that teaches a valuable lesson in not ever taking any bugger's word for anything with notarised proof sad

Big hug. I feel for you. I know how it feels.

itshappenedagain Wed 07-Sep-11 13:21:07

it very unfair, but unfortunatly can happen, in fact a friends landlord asked if he could put in new windows, she thought great, when all the work was finished, he handed her a letter saying she had 28 days to find somewhere new as he wanted to move back. she had asked him to renew tenancy a week previous.
have you put your name on the housing list? especially if you are on your own with a child? least they wont want you out so they can move in!

dickiedavisthunderthighs Wed 07-Sep-11 13:22:00

Poor you, that's rubbish.

Have you thought about maybe looking into whether you'd be eligible for shared ownership somewhere instead of renting?

CustardCake Wed 07-Sep-11 13:22:28

I know its all legal and perfectly allowed but I do feel sympathy for the OP and anyone else in this situation.
When you rent you play loads of money every month (often the same or more than a mortgage would cost on the same property if you could get one) and yet you have to live like a glorified house-sitter.
You cannot really make it home: you might not be allowed to have pets or put up a shelf in the bathroom or pictures on the wall. You cannot personalise it very much, you must worry about not scuffing woodwork or mark the carpets and then you can be moved on at little notice which is an additional cost and very upsetting if the kids are settled and you like the area.

The LL has done nothing illegal but that doesn't mean the OP has to feel O.K about it and it not be very upset at being in this position. If your only option is renting it doesn't mean that you can easily accept not being able to put down roots and feel secure.

Humourme Wed 07-Sep-11 13:22:48

Woowoo2, you have unintentionally made me laugh.You are definitely not a gypsy! Most of the travellers around where I live (and there's plenty) appear to be somewhat...staticgrin

Have a good cry and then put your brave face on for your DS and start to look for another property. Make plans. Remember a house is just bricks and mortar - a home is where the heart is and that's based in your relationship with your son.

Just a thought are you eligible for council housing? Might be worth looking into...

JodieHarsh Wed 07-Sep-11 13:24:10

Well said Custard.

I don't think those lucky enough to own their own homes will ever quite udnerstand the sadness and insecurity of having no option but to be a private tenant sad

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 07-Sep-11 13:28:37

YANBU to be upset, but I'm afraid YABU to think it's unfair. That's renting, sadly. Unless a rental period is specified in the contract, verbal assurances should be assumed to mean nothing. Everyone's life changes and now your landlord's friend needs a place to live and that's his solution.

I only bought my first property a couple of years ago and was a (happy) renter until then, so I do know exactly where you're coming from. It is upsetting when you have to move on, and many other aspects of renting also make you feel as if you have no control, but I second Humourme when she says home is where the heart is; you will find somewhere else and you will be happy there.

Loads of sympathy and very good luck finding a nice new place!

chubbleigh Wed 07-Sep-11 13:29:49

The friend is a giant shit as well, I couldn't move into somewhere if I knew the tenant had been booted out for no other reason than to make room for me. I'd say renting to/from mates is full of pitfalls, I wouldn't do it, it could go horribly wrong.

Empusa Wed 07-Sep-11 13:34:09

YANBU at all. It's a horrible situation. Hopefully your next place will be wonderful and you'll look back on this place as being a bit shit and be glad you moved.

LRDTheFeministDragon Wed 07-Sep-11 13:34:12

Btw, I rent myself - last place we were in, they promised us it'd be a long-term thing and the week after we signed they sent us notice we had to move out in 6 months. sad

It is crap and rotten and annoying, and I would be upset too. But I'm sorry, I think it is ridiculous to say the friend is a 'giant shit' - the tenant isn't being booted out for no reason, it's the end of the tenancy and it's not being renewed!

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 07-Sep-11 13:46:12

YANBU to feel upset. We were tenants for the last 11 years. None of them in England. DH is still living in Belgium in a rented house. When we signed the lease, it is for nine years. Nine bloody years. If he moves out next year as he plans to do, he'll have to pay two months rent.
Can you ask for a longer lease? Speaking as a LL, I'd bite your hands off for a tenant who was prepared to stay a long time.

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