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I'm on the fence with this one so would value some opinions

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MrsBradleyCooper Tue 23-Aug-11 19:09:11

DH has employed our nephew (his sister's ds, who is 15 in 3 weeks) for 2 weeks to do some labouring outside.

It has consisted of drilling holes in a brick wall, then using a hammer and chisel to remove the bricks, and get the mortar off them. So no actual heavy work like digging/lifting etc.

Anyway, DH wanted him to start at 9, have a half hour tea break about 10.30, an hour lunch break, and another half hour tea break in the afternoon and he was to finish at 5.

Day 1, his alarm didn't go off so he didn't start until 10.30, but came in at 11 for a 45 minute tea break. Went back out for 45 minutes, then came in for his lunch for an hour. An hour after he'd gone back in, he came to ask if I had any paracetamol as he had a sore back. He took it and then sat at the kitchen on his ipod for half an hour. Then to be fair, he did go out and do quite a bit in the afternoon.

Other days his alarm went off, but he sits eating his breakfast until 9.30, and then goes out. Similar story to the first day, keeps coming in and having really long breaks. Today he had a 1hr 45m lunch break.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, he's not started at 9 once, has had a sore back, a sore wrist, a sore arm, hammered himself in the hand, a piece of decking fell over onto him and he said that he was nearly killed grin, doesn't have enough energy to work, and the best one today - he couldn't get going because the weather is so dull outside and it's put him off grin.

Anyway, before anyone jumps on me, I know he's only 14, and is not used to "working", but he is being paid, and he was asked if he would like to do it to earn some cash. He wasn't in any way coerced into doing it by either his parents or DH.

I suppose what I'm wondering is, do you think all these complaints are genuine, or do you think he is being a bit lazy?

cornsilx Tue 23-Aug-11 19:10:58

probably not used to hard manual work! so yes a bit lazy.

MardyBra Tue 23-Aug-11 19:11:02

He does sound like he's skiving and should only be paid for the actual hours he works imo.

WalterFlipschicks Tue 23-Aug-11 19:12:10

He sounds like he needs a kick up the arse!

cornsilx Tue 23-Aug-11 19:12:32

don't pay him till he's finished the job

VaginaPuddleduck Tue 23-Aug-11 19:13:19

I think your DH needs to lower his expectations.

He's 14, he's not used to doing a full days work. Even doing that in an office would be a lot longer than what he's used to at school.

Can't your DH set the hours 10-4 and pay him accordingly?

squeakytoy Tue 23-Aug-11 19:13:33

I would sack him. He isnt even trying to be reliable or pull his weight.

tethersend Tue 23-Aug-11 19:13:56

If you want a professional job, best not to employ a 14 yr old family member wink

I'm with Mardy. Pay him by the hour and watch his enthusiasm blossom grin

LeBJOF Tue 23-Aug-11 19:14:16

Sounds like every other construction worker I know. He'll go far.

scurryfunge Tue 23-Aug-11 19:14:28

Probably a bit of both. Hard physical work can be a shock to teens, especially if they are not sporty.
Can you provide an incentive for starting at the desired time?

nosexpleaseimpregnant Tue 23-Aug-11 19:16:21

Are you paying him according to the hours he's put in? And aren't there some laws for under 16's with regards to how many hours they work?
TBH I think you're setting him up well for life in the real world by giving him paid work to do but I think, given his age, you should really have expected him to twat about and make excuses for not doing what was expected. As long as he understands that, if he only puts in 3 hours work, he will only get paid 3 hours work and not the 7 hours that he was at your house.
You may well have put him off entering the building trade tho grin

LRDTheFeministDragon Tue 23-Aug-11 19:17:10

He's only 14. He may genuinely find it harder than you think. I think you need either to employ a professional or put up with it.

I admit, that's my considered reaction. My first response was 'fucking hell you don't know you're born if you get work like that out of a 14-year-old!'

MynameisnotEarl Tue 23-Aug-11 19:17:38

This has made me grin. Sounds very typical of a 14yr old really. And of a 29yr old who works for me.

Great idea to employ him, it'll keep him out of mischief and teach him quite a lot about the world of work - and your DH gets help. Win all round.

squeakytoy Tue 23-Aug-11 19:18:34

Get one of his mates in to work alongside him. They love to show who is the strongest and fittest at that age... the competetiveness will get the job done

MrsBradleyCooper Tue 23-Aug-11 19:20:53

He is being paid by the week, but is also staying with us, so we are feeding him, he's been taken to the cinema twice, taken out for dinner twice and has had his first weeks wages already.

Having said all that, he is our nephew, so we would probably have done those things anyway.

If there are laws for under 16's re the amount of hours he works then we are certainly not breaking them wink.

MissVerinder Tue 23-Aug-11 19:20:58

What squeaky said!

That will work for sure!

Sofabitch Tue 23-Aug-11 19:21:31

Considering it's illegal for anyone under 16 to work in construction [http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_money/employment/young_people_and_employment.htm] you might want to be carful.

sixlostmonkeys Tue 23-Aug-11 19:21:55

If he intends working in this kind of trade he needs to learn a few things. Eg - 1. always turn up a week late (not an hour or so) 2. Go to the suppliers for much needed part and don't return for 3 days 3. Talk constantly on the mobile 4. adjust your trousers so you look a little bit cheeky from the rear 5. stand back, take a sharp intake of breath and shake your head, before stating how much extra this will cost

MrsBradleyCooper Tue 23-Aug-11 19:24:53

Well both DH and I are taking it all quite lightheartedly.

I just find it humourous - especially today's comment about the weather grin.

Taking ds to bed now but will check back later.

Sofabitch Tue 23-Aug-11 19:25:23

Until he is 15 it is also illegal for him to work more than 5 hours a day and 25 hours a week. He also has to legally have 2 weeks minimum off in the holidays. I take it your dh got a permit of the council for him to employ under 16's? Child labour laws are there for a reason.

squeakytoy Tue 23-Aug-11 19:26:19

It isnt illegal to be working in your family home.

Shakirasma Tue 23-Aug-11 19:27:48

Child labour my arse.

Sharney Tue 23-Aug-11 19:28:16

He is soooooo skiving. I have a lot of experience in this area as I have a dad who is allergic to work and also two brothers who are proudly following in his footsteps. Work out how many hours he has worked and pay him for it. Also, don't hire him again for awhile and make sure he knows why. With a bit of luck he'll learn his lesson. No work=no pay and no one hires a slacker.

anewyear Tue 23-Aug-11 19:29:15

My DH has a 17yr old working for him, yep so 3yrs older, but
he's still in 'school' mode, wants the money, doesnt want to do the graft.
At 14, thats gonna be a tad worse in my thinking.. all his mates will still be 'playing out'!!

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