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to think all teenage girls should be given a financial incentive to use LARC

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twentypoundsover Sun 14-Aug-11 21:39:47

as the cost to the taxpayer of say £500 for every year they didn't get pregnant would be dwarfed by the social and economic cost for paying for the consequences of teenage pregnancy.

twentypoundsover Sun 14-Aug-11 21:40:07

thats long-acting reversible contraception btw in case it's not obvious.

coccyx Sun 14-Aug-11 21:41:18

no make it less attractive to have a baby

hairylights Sun 14-Aug-11 21:42:42

Yabu. What about the responsibility of teenage boys in teenage pregnancy?

And iuis can cause some women real problems.

squeakytoy Sun 14-Aug-11 21:43:13

bad idea, which would just bring about a return to back street abortions sad

TrillianAstra Sun 14-Aug-11 21:43:22

At what point does the payment stop? When is the government-approved age to have a baby? 18? 19? 20?

squeakytoy Sun 14-Aug-11 21:45:11

also, the vast majority of teenage girls do NOT get pregnant, so I think it would be no saving at all for government resouces.

twentypoundsover Sun 14-Aug-11 21:45:52

huh? why would it result in more abortions? nothing about banning abortions, just paying teenagers to be given long-lasting contraception.

And about when the payment stops - do the research and look at the stats on age of mother at birth versus social outcomes to calculate it.

deemented Sun 14-Aug-11 21:45:52

This is a bad idea on so many levels.

Once again, the onus is on the girl - but what about the boys, the teenage lads who get them pregnant? Or are they simply 'studs' whilst the girls are nowt but 'slappers'?

Next you'll be reintroducing the Magdelene laundries...

GypsyMoth Sun 14-Aug-11 21:46:55

Lol never heard such rubbish! They already get paid to stay on at school/college

MirandaGoshawk Sun 14-Aug-11 21:47:45

Er, there was a very long thread recently on this very topic. Every single person thought it was a bad idea.

2shoes Sun 14-Aug-11 21:48:14

they can get condoms for free, the pill for free, you can't force them to use them

TrillianAstra Sun 14-Aug-11 21:50:09

If a girl would get an abortion in return for £500 (but without the financial incentive would have the baby) then she's probably better off not having the child.

tralalala Sun 14-Aug-11 21:51:24

better education, more sex education from a younger age, get parents better educated too at talking to their kids about sex. Much less likely to increase the amount of STDs about,

MrsTerryPratchett Sun 14-Aug-11 21:56:49

Presumably STDs are free and teenage pregnancies are expensive OP?

Maybe we should be teaching girls that they are valuable without sex, that their bodies belong to them, what their sisters before them fought and died for, that they don't have to have a boyf to be cool, that the porn industry and Hollywood don't define them...

Bollocks, just dose them up and we can all sleep soundly in our beds.

TastyMuffins Sun 14-Aug-11 21:57:46

Totally unreasonable, those forms of contraception can be dangerous for still developing young girls and can take years to wear off. What about those who are not even sexually active? Would they be encouraged to us LARC methods to get the money and put their bodies at risk using something that has no benefit?

NevermindtheNargles Sun 14-Aug-11 22:04:44

I'm all for it only if I can have mine backdated. I had ds at 29, I I'm owed a few grand.

Otherwise it's a terrible plan.

NevermindtheNargles Sun 14-Aug-11 22:04:45

I'm all for it only if I can have mine backdated. I had ds at 29, I I'm owed a few grand.

Otherwise it's a terrible plan.

LordOfTheFlies Sun 14-Aug-11 22:05:33

There are no answers are there?
I was a teenager (late teen) when HIV/AIDS was first in the news.
Fast forward several years ( about 26 years to be exact) and I still see young girls, usually in pairs for 'moral support' giggling and asking for the MAP.

What about the night -before condom. It's not a fecking joke ,girlsangry

evenlessnarkypuffin Sun 14-Aug-11 22:07:13

Yes lets pump girls full of artificial hormones, shooting up the STI rate including that of chlamydia which untreated can cause infertility.

meditrina Sun 14-Aug-11 22:09:56

YABU - not all teenagers are sexually active, and not all are irresponsible about contraception. Non-barrier methods do nothing to prevent STIs either. I think it is ethically and morally dubious to endorse the taking of hormones with cold hard cash.

And although I would agree that pregnancy will always be an issue which inherently bears down more on the female (as the one actually having the baby), I think this would send the wrong messages to young men about their responsibilities in this.

Perhaps we should be looking more at why girls and young women, boys and young men who choose to defer starting a pregnancy make that choice, and find ways to foster those attitudes more widely.

timidviper Sun 14-Aug-11 22:10:59

There is too much social engineering using rewards IMO. For balance in life we need to balance rights and responsibilities and need to use a combination of "carrots and sticks"

I think a lot of current social problems are down to the attitude engendered in some people by this constant rewarding them for reasonable behaviour leading to an attitude of entitlement.

I think having such low expectations of people that we think only money will stop them from "accidentally" getting pregnant is unlikely to raise any standards for any of us

MirandaGoshawk Sun 14-Aug-11 22:13:56

HERE is the other thread.

SlackSally Sun 14-Aug-11 22:14:35

Not true any more ILoveTiffany.

EMA scrapped as of September. Bonuses scrapped ages ago.

TrompetteMilitaire Sun 14-Aug-11 22:15:28

Good lord. Are there really people who believe that this would be a good idea?

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