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To think Joey Barton should be setting a good example & not a bad one

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Aftereightsaremine Sun 14-Aug-11 13:38:52

Dh is arsenal fan & was watching game against Newcastle yesterday I was passing through at time Barton was viciously hauling a player up.

So aibu that at this time following this weeks rioting he should be behaving in a more exemplary manner & an example set by banning him for at least 3 games & fining him 6 weeks wages so footballers can start setting example to others.

Dh thinks iabu? I dont

Columbia999 Sun 14-Aug-11 13:40:34

Joey Barton wouldn't know a good example if it came up and bit him on the bum. He's a thug and always has been.

PersonalClown Sun 14-Aug-11 13:41:35

I think Barton should have been kicked out of the game a long time ago.

He has criminal convictions for violence, not just on pitch cards.

The bloke is a thug and should not be allowed to be a blot on the beautiful game.

purplepidjin Sun 14-Aug-11 13:42:26

The rioting isn't the footballers fault, the reasons go far deeper into society than that. So yes, I would say YABU

mrsdonkeybucket Sun 14-Aug-11 13:43:09

Completely agree, Columbia.

OP, you are NOT BU.

Joey Barton is a convicted criminal, who went to prison for assault.

Personally, I don't think he should have been allowed to play football again, in a professional capacity.

Lifeissweet Sun 14-Aug-11 13:43:57

No YANBU. I watched that game too and it was a shameful display. It doesn't help that he's known for his temper and has today admitted that, having riled Gervinho by hauling him to his feet, he then tried to get him sent off by deliberately falling over when he retaliated (which was also wrong, btw).

What a nasty thug. What a poor example. It's especially disappointing in that the FA are supposedly trying to clamp down on this kind of behaviour in football. Children idolise these men and it's a horrible example. I do think it needs to be dealt with more harshly.

evenlessnarkypuffin Sun 14-Aug-11 13:44:41

grin at Joey Barton as a good example. The man who stubbed a cigarette out in someone's eye and the only Premier League footballer to have served a prison sentence during his top level career.

Sirzy Sun 14-Aug-11 13:47:20

Its a tough one really. You will always get "bad boys" in sport but often it is that aspect of there personality which makes them the player that they are.

On the pitch things should be dealt with by the disiplinary procedure for the sport, off pitch things by the police/club as deemed necessary.

Columbia999 Sun 14-Aug-11 13:47:57

He makes Wayne Rooney look like Ghandi!

BimboNo5 Sun 14-Aug-11 13:49:02

but often it is that aspect of there personality which makes them the player that they are.

What? A complete cunt?

LuceyLasstic Sun 14-Aug-11 13:49:19

he is a convicted violent thug - what role model do you want him to be?

follyfoot Sun 14-Aug-11 13:49:33

Anyone who expects footballers to be role models will always end up disappointed. Mainly uneducated young men with lots of money, lots of adulation and way too much time on their hands. He's a violent ex-con, we shouldnt expect anything of him really.

As for not being allowed to play football, thats a very slippery slope. Why should justice be different for footballers? An office worker/plumber/student who comes out of prison isnt prevented from earning a living how they choose, why should a footballer be?

Lifeissweet Sun 14-Aug-11 13:51:44

well preferably, Luceylasstic (nice name, btw smile) I'd prefer him to not be in the position to be any kind of role model.

AgentZigzag Sun 14-Aug-11 13:52:58

''A complete cunt?''

I know practically nothing about football, but even I know that bimbo's right.

Nancy66 Sun 14-Aug-11 13:54:20

He's a thug with money.

thick, violent, nasty piece of work that will never change.

Lifeissweet Sun 14-Aug-11 13:55:10

follyfoot - the problem is, they are role models for young, impressionable young boys who want to be like their heroes, so they do have a responsibility whether they like it or not.

At school, we try to teach children to control their tempers, not retaliate if someone is violent towards them and find outlets for their 'prickly feelings' (as we call them for the little ones). They are, rightly, sanctioned if they fail to do this. I think it's not good for them to see grown adults, who they look up to, not being punished sufficiently for violent behaviour (I'm talking about on the pitch here)

No - possibly convictions should not prevent a footballer from pursuing a career, but a repeated inability to control their tempers on the pitch should be.

follyfoot Sun 14-Aug-11 13:58:27

Then we should teach our children to look to others as role models. Because famous footballers dont make good role models. Its been like that for many years and its not going to change.

mrsdonkeybucket Sun 14-Aug-11 13:58:31


In my post I said that I personally didn't feel he should have been allowed to play football in a professional capacity again.

An office worker/plumber/student will never attain the levels of money or lifestyle he has by being allowed to, in their line of work.

If he really did want to atone for his 'mistakes', why not get involved in some sort of scheme in football, to help others, to prevent them making the same 'mistakes' he did.

Instead, he has come out of prison, straight back into top flight football, and it would appear from his behaviour since his imprisonment, that both on and off the pitch is at best, questionable.

mrsdonkeybucket Sun 14-Aug-11 13:59:56


I completely agree with your post re. other role models.

In fact, it is a subject which I am often in despair about. sad

evenlessnarkypuffin Sun 14-Aug-11 14:01:00

To be fair I doubt spending time in prison is likely to improve anyone's temper or self control.

Sirzy Sun 14-Aug-11 14:02:05

Follyfoot, I am no football fan but I am sure that some footballers do provide a good role model and it's up to parents to emphasis these while letting them identify the behaviour of x isn't appropriate.

I am a rugby fan and some players would be awful role models (for behaviour on and off the pitch) but others make fantastic role models. I have know rl players to be released from clubs or contracts not renewed due to there conduct off the pitch though as it can and does bring the game/team into disrepute

squeakytoy Sun 14-Aug-11 14:02:12

Joey Barton should not even be allowed on a football pitch. He is a thug and a disgrace to the sport.

follyfoot Sun 14-Aug-11 14:10:57

So donkey if he was prevented from playing on a professional basis, he would be receiving different justice to everyone else. I think the money premiership footballers earn is ridiculous, but that cant impact on the justice they receive for committing a crime, that needs sorting out within football.

ImperialBlether Sun 14-Aug-11 14:11:32

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follyfoot Sun 14-Aug-11 14:12:26

Oh and I shouldnt think he wants to atone for his crimes - do many criminals? Presumably not given the recidivism rates in this country....

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