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The Sisterhood Thing - AIBU to think it's a bit weird?

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CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:09:41

Specifically, the sisterhood thing that says that you should never be disparaging about a fellow woman.

However, my friend just made a slightly catty Facebook status about a female celeb's fashions. A few of her friends had a little chuckle, including me, then one of her other friend steamed in berating us all for being unsisterly and asking us why we needed men to put us down when we do a perfectly good job ourselves. blush

I must admit, I am a bit hmm about this sisterhood thing i.e you must never be negative about another woman, because YOU are a woman too. The example I just posted about is a bad one because it's shallow/superficial, but I've seen women chided for, say, moaning about a colleague's conduct at work. Surely, we aren't expected to stick together because we are "all women together"? I find it a bit weird and patronising, like we can't judge women on their individual merits but rather blindy applaud them merely because they own a vagina.

I am willing to concede that I might be wrong, though. I am just wondering where the rule ceases to rule, IYSWIM? Are we allowed to be rude about the cat-in-bin lady because, like, she is a lady?

BitzyVonMuffling Mon 01-Aug-11 19:11:10

There is no sisterhod

limitedperiodonly Mon 01-Aug-11 19:12:01

Zara Phillips has big arms. Very handy when controlling half a ton of horse but not so useful in that wedding dress.

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:13:32

Well, yes, limitedperiod.

Was there no-one to be sisterly and tell her that she needed sleeves? Sad for her.

<laps at milk>

BluddyMoFo Mon 01-Aug-11 19:15:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

janewa Mon 01-Aug-11 19:15:22

YANBU its complete nonsense

limitedperiodonly Mon 01-Aug-11 19:15:34

She probably thought she'd be okay because she'd invited Beatrice and HugeKnees.

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:19:53

YANBU - I hate it. Just because someone is female doesn't mean I have to like them / support them / protect them. Bleurrrgh.

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:20:35

Beatrice looked really nice, I thought. Eugenie looked like she'd been raiding the local Sue Ryder shop for her outfit.

HowlingBitch Mon 01-Aug-11 19:22:46

^ I find it a bit weird and patronising, like we can't judge women on their individual merits but rather blindy applaud them merely because they own a vagina.^

Here, here. YANBU

squeakytoy Mon 01-Aug-11 19:23:35

I think Eugenie took her Auntie Anne with her too grin

HowlingBitch Mon 01-Aug-11 19:23:41

Fuckity, fuck, fuck... Bugger it you know what I was aiming at.

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:25:20

Anne has looked terrible since birth. I reckon she was born with that weird pouffey hair. She reminds me of a put-upon seaside mule.

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:28:00

I do like Zara though. But I think thats just because I am horsey (not to look at mind). smile

FreudianSlipper Mon 01-Aug-11 19:30:03

nothing wring with a good bitch about soem celeb that you are never going to meet, they are never going to hear your opinion and it is not going to impact in their life if you enjoy it

i do dislike how women turn against each other in some situations, how some put down other women especially those that need it the least (ie. domestic violence) or are constantly shouting out what about the menz is no one thinking of the menz crap that some come out with but when women coe together to support one another its amazing the difference they can make

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:33:43

Joking aside, I do agree with you FreudianSlipper. I do consider myself a woman's woman (much prefer women to men tbh) but I don't think that that should impede on my hobby of being critical of famous women's outfits. wink

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:35:52

I am never going to base they way I treat someone or the level of respect or support I give them on what sex they are. It's all about actions for me. If you are fecking idiot I will tell you male or female and I don't see why I would be expected to make any allowances for the possesion of a vagina. I don't feel any greater empathy or solidarity to other women than I do to other men. They are all other people. Just because I share a gender with someone doesn't mean I owe them anything or vice versa.

limitedperiodonly Mon 01-Aug-11 19:44:11

True. I get affronted by men who say: 'oh, you're not like the average woman.' What would that be then?

Neither do I like women who buy into rape myths.

Still feel this makes it okay to pronounce on unwise fashion choices.

btw, did you see Dave and Sam in Tuscany?

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:47:03

Dave looked fucking awful. WTF were those work shoes all about? With no socks? Black trousers in the Italian heat. I bet his bawbag area stunk like a tramp's hat.

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:47:04

Oh unwise fashion choices are fair game. Possibly even mandatory to comment.

I do not like Sam's jumpsuit. I think jumpsuits are ill advised anyway and risk camel toe.

LRDTheFeministDragon Mon 01-Aug-11 19:50:00

As Caitlin MOran's new book puts it, feminism is not Buddhism and it is actually ok to be bitchy without 'betraying the sisterhood'.

There are times when it's crappy to make a bitchy comment. These times, however, have very little to do with any 'sisterhood'. IMO.

CupcakesandTwunting Mon 01-Aug-11 19:53:01

I was trying to remember if Goddess Moran had uttered any pearls on being bitchy wrt feminism and I couldn't remember so thank you LRD. smile

I've got a jumpsuit. I think I look OK in it <unsure of self now> I did buy a size up to counter any risk of making grown men cry with my camel toe. wink

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:53:55

Surely feminism is simply the idea that women should have equal rights socially, politically, financially, culturally etc? Can't see any reasons why that would preclude being bitched about if you are in the public eye and have fashion disaster.

catgirl1976 Mon 01-Aug-11 19:54:33

As long there is no camel toe I am sure it looks great. They make me look like a clown so I am just bitter smile

limitedperiodonly Mon 01-Aug-11 20:03:57

Sam is called Droopy Drawers in this house. You don't want to know what we call Dave.

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