to think – and say – this is incredible offensive?

[Mitzimaybe]

On a football forum where there's nothing much going on (it is the off season, after all) someone made a post saying "This site has about as much going for it as Adolf Hitler would have at a Bar Mitzvah." I responded with "Unbelievable. I've seen some idiotic and offensive posts from you over the years, but that crosses the line so far that I'm lost for words."

A few others have also told him its offensive but some have defended him, e.g. "Jesus, what [xxxxx] posted was not offensive! You lot must be a right laugh if you're offended by something as easy as that." The person who posted the remark claims to have done a straw poll and "A random sample of 27 people in the office and unanimously everyone agrees with me."

I am not Jewish, don't consider myself overly pc (e.g. I don't see anything wrong with Baa baa black sheep) but surely, any sane person can see it's incredibly offensive, can't they? Or is it just me? I don't even understand why there's any argument about it.

So what does a random sample of 27 mumsnetters think about it?

[BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack]

Of course it's offensive....what an arse!

[worraliberty]

This random Mumsnetter wonders why you've reposted the bile so even more people can read it?

People like that should be pulled up at the time (as you did) but otherwise not given the time of day imo.

[MadYoungCatLady]

I wouldn't find it offensive and I come from Jewish descent.

[Pagwatch]

It is a football forum.

Are you shocked that some football supporters are stupid and racist?

[winnybella]

Hmm. Not really sure it's that offensive tbh. Crass, yes, but offensive? It would be if it applauded Hitler for his treatment of Jews, for example.

[winnybella]

Jewish descent here, as well.

[debka]

Actually I don't think it is offensive when you think about it. I think people can immediately shout RACIST at any mention of Hitler or Jewish people as a knee jerk reaction.

[winnybella]

Am I reading it right, though- the meaning is that Hitler wouldn't be very popular at Bar Mitzvah, right?

[debka]

That's what i understood winnybella.

[BulletWithAName]

It's not racist, and I'm seeing it the same way winnybella is seeing it

[Mitzimaybe]

Pagwatch I often encounter sexism and I wouldn't expect any better from some of the football fans who seem to struggle with basic English, but these are seemingly educated men who (imho) should know better. I seriously hope the mere liking of football doesn't define one as stupid and racist.

MadYoungCatLady thanks for posting the alternative point of view. Can you say any more about why it's not offensive or is it just that it doesn't particularly bother you?

[MrsTwinks]

bad taste most definately, wouldnt say offensive

[Omigawd]

It's called a "Joke".

Get over it.

[eurochick]

I don't find it offensive. It's only saying that Hitler would be unpopular at a Jewish event. Which is clearly true.

If I say "Is the Pope Catholic?" or "do bears sh1t in the woods?" I am not being offensive about the Pope or bears. I am just using a bit of colour in my language to make a point based on an obvious statement of fact. The football forum poster was doing something similar.

[winnybella]

But what exactly is bothering you, OP? It says that the football site doesn't have much going for it and compares it to how unpopular Hitler would be at Bar Mitzvah. Which, obv, he would be

[OurPlanetNeptune]

Offensive, to whom? Is attacking Jewish people? No. But definitely stupid, and demonstrates the lack of intelligence of the person who wrote it.

[Mitzimaybe]

OK, interesting responses. I'll give it some more thought...

[MadYoungCatLady]

If I've read it right, as described by winnybella, its saying Hitler would not be popular amongst Jewish people.

Well, he wouldn't would he? Its kind of an obvious joke though, this guy could use some lessons in the dry wit department.

[OldMacEIEIO]

Adolf was a teetotal anyway, so why would he be going into a bar

[tethersend]

Something can be funny and offensive.

[tethersend]

OldMac, that's a joke, right?

[MrsCog]

Crass and stupid - yes, offensive - no IMO.

[Tchootnika]

OP - your offence stocks could be better used elsewhere, IMO, though it's nice of you to care...

[MsTeak]

I don't fine it offensive. Nor funny. I don't think its a taboo subject, its not automatically offensive to mention Hitler.