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to not want to help someone to live after my death?

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dolldaggabuzzbuzz Wed 29-Jun-11 13:31:45

I am on the organ donor register. I am willing to donate all my organs to those who may need them in the event of my untimely death.

However, if the new system of presumed consent is brought in, I am opting out. I can't explain why I feel like I do about this. Am I being unreasonable?

MavisEnderby Wed 29-Jun-11 13:32:13


belgo Wed 29-Jun-11 13:33:14

That is totally illogical.

LittleMissFlustered Wed 29-Jun-11 13:33:46


Georgimama Wed 29-Jun-11 13:33:48

Since you are voluntarily on the register now, your POV makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. So yes you are being unreasonable, but it isn't unreasonable for people not to want to be the donor register at all (hope they or their families never need a blood transfusion or transplant though).

mousymouse Wed 29-Jun-11 13:33:49

yep, yabu
I have a donor card, my family know about my wishes. but it is a faff for some people. so I really like the presumed consent system.

CoffeeIsMyFriend Wed 29-Jun-11 13:34:08

totally U.

lorelilee Wed 29-Jun-11 13:34:10

Totally and utterly.

IWantAnotherBaby Wed 29-Jun-11 13:34:29

YABU; obviously. But then I suspect you realise that.

TandB Wed 29-Jun-11 13:34:53

Yes. Utterly unreasonable. You are willing to do it and have taken the time to register, so you presumably accept that it is important. And yet you are going to withdraw your consent to that important, life-saving thing simply because the legislation surrounding it has changed.

People haven't become less important just because there has been a law change.

itisnearlysummer Wed 29-Jun-11 13:35:42

I don't think it's totally illogical.

Asking my permission to do something is one thing.

Assuming that because I haven't expressly said otherwise then I must consent.

Not sure I agree with that!

pooka Wed 29-Jun-11 13:36:08


What a strange way of looking at it. You;re already on the register. How does presumed consent make the idea of organ donation unpalatable in contrast to the current opting-in set up?

TheBigJessie Wed 29-Jun-11 13:36:17

On the facts you've given, yes.

If you want to donate organs now, choosing to opt-out for the sake of it, just sounds petty.

<is on organ-donation list already. Not sure how she feels about changing the system to an opt-out one, but she certainly wouldn't choose to opt-out if they did>

itisnearlysummer Wed 29-Jun-11 13:36:35

Having said that I am a registered donor and wouldn't change it. But not sure I'm happy with 'presumed consent'.

CMOTdibbler Wed 29-Jun-11 13:37:19

yabu. Having known personally a number of people who had their lives changed by organ donation, and two who died waiting for a donor, I'm all for presumed consent

VelvetSnow Wed 29-Jun-11 13:38:04

Apologies for my ignorance, but "presumed consent" does this mean that all organs can and will be used - because we are presuming that the deceased would've consented anyway....

If this is the case, why change your mind - surely the end result is the same?

PissesGlitter Wed 29-Jun-11 13:38:26

you are already a donor by consent

sorry but it makes no sense to me that you would then decide not to

ginmakesitallok Wed 29-Jun-11 13:38:30


I don't see the problem with presumed consent - if you object you can opt out? Why shouldn't your organs be used after you have died? They are of little use to you then

Debs75 Wed 29-Jun-11 13:38:36

Yes YABU and this is why.
Under the old system you opted in so anyone who carried a donor card could if they wanted be smug about it, 'look I want to help others so I have joined the donor scheme'
Under the new system everyone is opted in so it is now a case of I have to help people after my death and you can't carry off the smugness anymore.

Just stay opted in and don't be a prat about it

FunnysInTheGarden Wed 29-Jun-11 13:39:02

you are being obtuse and unreasonable.

quimbledonsemi Wed 29-Jun-11 13:39:07

But with the system we have now we are presuming that people wouldn't want to donate their organs when the vast majority of people who aren't on the register probably just haven't been bothered. There is a shortage of organs so I am all for a new system where if you feel strongly about it you can opt out and the lazy feckers are presumed in.

seeker Wed 29-Jun-11 13:40:26

Well, if you're happy for people to die because you want to make a point that's fine.

But I hope you've made a legal declaration that you carry with you at all times that neither you nor your children wish to recieve an organ from anyone unless you know for certain that they have given active, rather than presumed consent.

Ormirian Wed 29-Jun-11 13:40:41

Yes you are.

Chandon Wed 29-Jun-11 13:42:11

well OP, I see where you are coming from and I feel the same.

we are a small group though!

VelvetSnow Wed 29-Jun-11 13:42:16

Debs75 - hit the nail on the head! nuff said.

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