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TO SAY It is being said that current pop music is coming close to being porno

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GabbyLoggon Fri 17-Jun-11 09:45:41

What do you think.? I point out that I am much older than most of you and seem to have taken a lifelong interest in pop music. I remember the sex pistols causing a rumpus years ago.....that black geezer did My Ding A ling (chuck Berry) and Mary whitehouse complained.

The American thought Presleys [umping hips would end civilisation.. I gather what is being objected to now is videos.

On Ga Ga I think she is just a well-worked publicity stunt.

PinotsKittens Fri 17-Jun-11 09:49:36

Turn off MTV and leave it to the younger generation then.

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 10:00:16

i agree with you Gabby

not about Lady Ga-Ga (jury still out here) but yes, some promo vids are nothing short of soft porn, perhaps used as a smokescreen for the lack of musical ability?

i remember when pop videos were narratives, or stories that even had no bearing on the song at all, but some, i feel now, some have lost the plot completely

I M O

and yes, i'm quite old too wink

GabbyLoggon Fri 17-Jun-11 10:01:21

Pinots Not my debate. The broadshets and the Today prog are covering it. I think parents of teenagers are getting a bit worried. It is now a real live issue. Plucking intellectuals involved.

thestringcheeseincident Fri 17-Jun-11 10:05:48

Yes I think Rhianna has done it for me. S&M song is just crazy. Is there only Adele who does not do the sex music?

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 10:09:00

i wrote a letter to the manager of our local soft play centre after this was played over the sound system during a 4yr olds birthday party.

we're so de-sensitized now sad

i never got a reply

mufti Fri 17-Jun-11 10:11:20

i agree
and good for you auntie, even if children would not understand the lyrics, thats not making it ok

wannaBe Fri 17-Jun-11 10:12:04

well, anyone remember "relax"? that was banned iirc.

Lady gaga is actually genuinely talented. she plays, she writes her own songs, but the truth is that singers need an image to make them sell.

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 10:13:16

wannaBe

if they need the porn image to sell music, they aren't that good then are they?

darleneoconnor Fri 17-Jun-11 10:14:53

I've let ds, 8, watch some 18 films so im a liberal parent but i didnt allow him to watch the last series of x factor because i think the sexual content is unsui5able.

begonyabampot Fri 17-Jun-11 10:15:00

i was at the local easter family fun day at the park and the kids were all sitting with their ice creams listening to the entertainment, some old tarty looking club singer singing Lilly Allen's 'It's Not Fair' about giving head etc - was rather amusing.

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 10:18:12

i did too darlene, with my older kids - the films thing i mean.

but it's the whole 'sex sells' issue that i object to most of all

SecretNutellaFix Fri 17-Jun-11 10:21:14

Most of the music out there isn't particularly suitable to actually listen to.

The videos are horrendous.

pleasenap Fri 17-Jun-11 10:21:28

Rhianna offends me more than Lady Gaga does. There is a dearth of overtly sexual songs at the moment. And ones about drinking. I actually quite like the tunes of some of these songs, but I think the words are OTT and not great for kids and teens to be hearing as the mainstream. I also think its a sign of a not-so-great singer if they want to let sex sell rather than their talent. Its like comedians - I think its far cleverer and shows more talent to make comedy from general stuff rather than from smut and bad language. God...I never thought I'd sound Mary Whitehouse!

wannaBe Fri 17-Jun-11 10:23:56

but there have always been questionable lyrics in songs.

i mean if you listen to

greased lightning

and that was 40 years ago.

DaisyDaresYOU Fri 17-Jun-11 10:24:29

I remember like a virgin Madonna.I was a big fan at 5 lol.I didn't know what it meant,i wasn't harmed in any way and I remember that talk about sex song aswell and I was young then.I don't agree with soft porn music videos though.The worst one is that call on me music video

GabbyLoggon Fri 17-Jun-11 10:28:46

VICTORIA D is doing it on the 5-live phone-in at the moment

Itsjustafleshwound Fri 17-Jun-11 10:29:54

There is a huge sexual content and context to modern/pop music and music in general - I have a real issue with the videos and the pornographic elements to a lot of the performances but then I don't think banning and censorship is the way forward either.

HellAtWork Fri 17-Jun-11 10:54:48

It is extremely difficult to find anything on the BTvision Music on Demand section on our TV at home for 18 month old DS to have a dance to. I have to stick to the 80s selection, pick from the 90s and 2000 onwards is generally a no go. The decline into pornpop is very noticeable so I think it is in the last 10 years that things have got really out of control. Lady GaGa videos are a no no for DS - I just don't see why her showmanship has to mean that in every video she is wearing skimpy underwear just with different and more ridiculous headgear. Elton John does showmanship, ridiculous and entertaining costumes and good songs without needing to strip (perish the thought) as do many many other singer/songwriters - can only think of men though. Funny how it's only the women stripping in videos? I can't think of any music videos with gratuitous male flesh on show.

I have fond memories of dancing every Thursday (?) evening to Top of the Pops in the living room much to my parents' amusement. Couldn't happen now.

Pumpernickel10 Fri 17-Jun-11 10:56:45

I don't listen to any of today's music is utter dog poo.

GabbyLoggon Fri 17-Jun-11 11:29:51

I like Blunt, Robbie, Lily allen and a few more.

miniwedge Fri 17-Jun-11 11:47:03

I agree with you.
I don't mind sexual content in context. I loathe pornopop when it is just for the sake of it though. Rhianna et al are not doing young womens' self image any good at all in my opinion. Lots of rap artists are just as bad if not worse.
It's not just the lyrics though, it's the videos. Male rap artists surrounded by bikini clad women gyrating and pretending to get off with each other.
I fucking hate it when pop videos promote lesbianism as simply a method to sexually excite other males.

I think that the pop industry have become lazy.

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 12:09:58

I don't think it's laziness either though, it's purely to market 'music' which IMO without a sex-laden vid to top promote, would fester in the bowels of the industry.

AuntieMonica Fri 17-Jun-11 12:11:49

not that i have any opinion of it, at all grin

Lovecat Fri 17-Jun-11 12:27:33

I can't bear the videos. They are far worse than the lyrics.

Having said that when we were on the way home from camping, listening to Radio One because we couldnt' get anything else to work, we must have heard that 'Beb-ay' song by Nicole Schertzinger about a zillion times and I really don't want my 6 year old singing 'put your hands on my body' from the back seat....

I do remember my mother getting into a self-righteous strop over a song called Romeo by Mr Big in the 1970's (any other old gimmers out there remember that one?) "Step back inside me Romeo, she said/Step back inside me, take me to your bed"

Seems almost old-fashionedly romantic nowadays...

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