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To be a bit confused and a bit annoyed that I earn less

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MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 10:49:16

As a senior lecturer at a University than an A level teacher.
Seriously considering changing.

FlorenceDaphne Sun 12-Jun-11 10:53:57

But there is no such thing, generally, as an "A-level teacher." Most secondary schools have teachers who teach the whole spectrum of ages, from 11 to 18. Unless, of course, you're at a college type institution. And then the pay varies massively, depending on experience, management responsibilities and other teaching and learning responsibilitues, and whether you've decided to bother comleting your threshold applications or not. You could be a deputy principal or even a principal teaching A-level.

southeastastra Sun 12-Jun-11 10:54:57

how does that work out? seems bizarre

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 10:55:12

Sorry, my friend is an A level subject teacher. Psychology. In a school.

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 10:56:44

<thinking of jumping over to school teaching>

basingstoke Sun 12-Jun-11 10:57:13

Should a senior lecturer be paid more than a senior teacher? Why?

darleneoconnor Sun 12-Jun-11 10:57:31

Yes uni lecturers used to earn quite a lot but relative salaries have significantly decreased in recent years, I dont know why tbh. At the same time teachers' pay has increased in relative terms.

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 10:58:02

I consider teaching university to be a higher level, yes.

Riveninside Sun 12-Jun-11 10:58:59

Weird. My inlaws were senior lecturer/ teacher combo (she taught A level physics only) but he was paid far more. He also worked all summer at research when students werent there.

Gissabreak Sun 12-Jun-11 10:59:19

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FlorenceDaphne Sun 12-Jun-11 10:59:59

Yes, but it is unlikely that all your friend does is teach A-level psychology. Unless, of course, the sixth form is really, really massive and there are enough sixthform students who want to do psychology that they can have multiple groups doing the same courses. And even then, it still depends on everything else I said, different responsibilities and level of experience.

Why not apply for some school jobs? Depending on what area of the country you're in, they could be crying out!

pumpernickel10 Sun 12-Jun-11 11:00:20

Why should you earn more?

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 11:00:48

I dont do research, too busy teaching and programme leading.We are not released for research.

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 11:01:29

I have taught A levels i the past - chemistry and maths- so have a good means for comparison btw

basingstoke Sun 12-Jun-11 11:01:29

Totally different challenge though I should think. Not just about "level" of teaching.

LilyPickle Sun 12-Jun-11 11:02:31

Do you get paid hourly, MrsKravitz?

Dozer Sun 12-Jun-11 11:02:34

I get annoyed when people say they're annoyed that others earn more than them. Is rude to presume that your job has more "worth" and anyway, in a capitalist society this isn't the driver of wages.

You have made choices and if not happy with your current employment can presumably change jobs.

ooohyouareawfulbutilikeyou Sun 12-Jun-11 11:04:01

frankly in my experience, college & uni tutors can be very poorly informed about their subjects

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 11:04:28

lilypickleNo I dont.

FlorenceDaphne Sun 12-Jun-11 11:07:25

Well, if you've done both, so you've got experience for comparison and you think school teaching is the better deal, go for it! Good luck trying to find a school job that just teaches A-level.

sunshineandbooks Sun 12-Jun-11 11:11:02

MrsKravitz, is is because most A level teachers tend to be based in a school and therefore are qualified teachers working to a national pay scale? Whereas many uni lecturers don't have formal teaching qualifications and are instead working from the status of their contribution to that subject area, so their value can vary massively according to how much they've published and the institution they are based in.

That's not saying it's right or wrong, but it could explain it.

Cartoonjane Sun 12-Jun-11 11:11:22

Mrs Kravitz, do you think a reception calss teacher should be paid less than an A level teacher? (which I am by the way, work in a school, teach only a level but am part time).

MrsKravitz Sun 12-Jun-11 11:12:42

Uni teachers have to have a teaching qualification now sunshine
I have a MEd as well as my specialits qualifications.

Fontsnob Sun 12-Jun-11 11:13:00

Go back to teaching then. However, don't expect it easy to find an A level only post, not at a regular school anyway.

basingstoke Sun 12-Jun-11 11:13:03

So re-train.

I love teaching. I'm pretty senior and earn a reasonable wage for a job I love. If you can't say the same then change.

There's always someone to compare yourself with unfavourably - dh earns more than me and manages fewer people for example, but it doesn't matter much if you are doing what you want to do.

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