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to think this about modern Feminism?

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Catmilk Sat 11-Jun-11 18:07:24

I AM a Feminist, but by God over the last few decades has it radicalised a lot of people to believe the very worst of men and to see women as victims at every turn. These are the people that are ruining Feminism IMO, and making many young women want to have nothing to do with it, which is a terrible shame.

Do you agree or not? ONE post each please. (otherwise I think it will veer off-topic or derailed) I will make no further posts, just conducting a survey as it were.

SybilBeddows Sat 11-Jun-11 18:09:20

no I most certainly don't agree. The only people who believe crap like that are the people who buy the rubbish about it peddled by antifeminists, rather than people who actually know something about feminism IME.

cinnamontoast Sat 11-Jun-11 18:10:33

Your post is far too vague to agree or disagree with. What exactly are you talking about? And it seems a bit bossy to limit responses to one post each - I don't think it works like that (and it doesn't seem very sisterly).

LolaRennt Sat 11-Jun-11 18:11:37

This thread has already been done and is active at the moment I belive. Try and be original at least.

BelleDameSansMerci Sat 11-Jun-11 18:12:39

No I do not agree. I think that view is perpetrated by a patriarchal media in order to derail feminism and "divide and conquer". It's working too.

I think a lot of young woman want nothing to do with it because they have been brainwashed by the media to believe that feminists are men hating lesbians who don't shave their armpits and you need to be pretty, perky and have virtually no body hair in order to marry a footballer.

I may be an emibittered old hag who can't believe how little some women know about Feminism and how much they owe to them.

BelleDameSansMerci Sat 11-Jun-11 18:13:31

It... Owe to "it".

cinnamontoast Sat 11-Jun-11 18:15:34

Anyone seen Caitlin Moran in today's Times about feminism? Not everyone will like her take on it but at least she's putting it in the news.
(Oops, two posts now - and possibly veering off topic. I do apologise)

LRDTheFeministDragon Sat 11-Jun-11 18:38:29

No, I'm afraid I think you're talking rubbish.

I don't think it is feminism that has 'believe the very worst of men and to see women as victims at every turn'. Those people who 'believe the very worst of men' do not, so far as I have ever seen, appear to be feminists at all. And I have certainly never seen feminists painting women as victims. But it would be awfully convenient for misogynists if we did do these things, so I think maybe someone has been feeding you anti-feminist claptrap and hoping you'll buy it.

As to young women not wanting to get involved in feminism - I think the tide is turning on this too. Plenty of young women post on MN's feminism section.

Finally, why do you think some people's opinions could 'ruin feminism'? If you think about it, that doesn't make any sense. Feminism is about seeking equality and fair treatment of women. It's not based on rhetoric, it's based on ideology, so I don't see how bad rhetoric such as you believe is found in 'modern Feminism' could discredit the ideology.

Irksome Sat 11-Jun-11 18:39:47

no, you're talking nonsense

Irksome Sat 11-Jun-11 18:40:02

and don't tell me how many posts I can make

Irksome Sat 11-Jun-11 18:40:18

because that just makes me want to do MILLIONS!

DontGoCurly Sat 11-Jun-11 18:40:21

I agree.

DontCallMePeanut Sat 11-Jun-11 18:42:02

You're talking shite. AND how dare you dictate how many posts we can make...

DontCallMePeanut Sat 11-Jun-11 18:42:28

Being a bit of an anarchist

DontCallMePeanut Sat 11-Jun-11 18:42:41

That just makes me

DontCallMePeanut Sat 11-Jun-11 18:42:51

Want to do this

chibi Sat 11-Jun-11 18:44:23

Modern feminism is rubbish

Now roccoco style baroque era feminism - now there was a movement

SybilBeddows Sat 11-Jun-11 18:45:46

rofl Chibi.

LRDTheFeministDragon Sat 11-Jun-11 18:45:52

grin at chibi. Me, I liked those delightful Elizabethan feminists, now they had style!

SybilBeddows Sat 11-Jun-11 18:47:38

you are all wrong, we will never again achieve the purity of Classical Greek feminism.

It was so sad the way it deteriorated into the decadent, overwrought sentimentality of the Hellenistic version.

Irksome Sat 11-Jun-11 18:48:09

I also think if you're going to post for opinions, then you should stick around and respond to them, not just bugger off. But if you do do that, then of course you have laid yourself wide open for everyone to discard your rules and derail the thread as much as they like!

howzaboutthat Sat 11-Jun-11 18:48:40

How on earth are people supposed to DISCUSS something on a DISCUSSION forum if they are only allowed to post once confused

If you want to conduct a survey, there are applications for that, I can point you towards some if you like?

d0gFace Sat 11-Jun-11 18:48:49

Does anyone have some good info on what feminism is ect?

Sorry to be abit dim, but people seem to have different opinions on what it stands for from what I've read.blush

buzzsore Sat 11-Jun-11 18:48:59

I think

buzzsore Sat 11-Jun-11 18:49:10

you're talking

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