To think that ranting is unprofessional?

[nenevomito]

I have just had a hideous twatbadger fuckweasel rant at me in front of a whole office of people for being unprofessional as I gave someone permission to do something that he disagreed with.

It was in front of the whole fucking department and I'm still shaking. I'm here as I just have no one I can discuss it with.

It kicked off as we'd been asked to do something which doesn't follow our usual process, but it was an emergency. I agreed that it should go ahead. Fuckweasel lost it and let rip with a huge rant at me about how I was unprofessional for breaking processes.

Some of the things he said were really unpleasant. I said to him that I appreciated his opinion, but I was seeing the bigger picture and that as the senior manager, it was my call, not his. As I left the office he was still ranting.

I then got a phone call from the member of staff who I had originally given permission to do the work asking if it was OK for them to go ahead as fuckweasel was still kicking off in the office.

I am going to have to deal with this as I can't have that happen, but need to calm down first and go in calm. I feel a bit queasy to be honest.

IMO breaking procedure is less professional than ranting at someone in front of their staff.

[LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726]

If you're the senior manager then you undermined your colleague. Why wasn't it clear in the first place that you disagreed with whatever course of action it was?

Of course it's not ok to rant in the office but it's not very professional to leave your colleague ranting away out there and you're here. Go and sort it out perhaps?

[nenevomito]

No, I didn't undermine my colleague.

The request was made. I made the decision. He kicked off.

At no point had he said "No" and then I waltzed in and undermined him.

I know I need to go in and sort it out, but I need to calm down.

[LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726]

I understand that you're not calm at the moment but you can't leave colleague ranting at the other staff. Take some deep breaths and take colleague somewhere to discuss this... preferably with a longish walk so that you can both calm down.

[Pumpernickel10]

I love a bit of ranting it's good for the soul

[LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726]

Ah, I've got it. Sorry OP, I misread it. Can you just suggest that he goes somewhere on his own to calm down and comes back when he's ready?

[Hammy02]

No-one should ever raise their voice at someone in a work environment. Ever. It makes the ranter look out of control. Which they are if they can't resolve a matter without raising their voice. Someone did this to me once. I just let them get on with it. They looked the idiot. Not me.

[AlpinePony]

YANBU. It's very unprofessional.

[Pumpernickel10]

Ranting at work is unproffesional though

[madonnawhore]

Really, really, really unprofessional. I hate that kind of behaviour in the workplace and I think you were right to remove yourself from the situation and not get into a slanging match.

He sounds horrible. It's only work FFS. Unless you both work in A&E I doubt this is a life or death situation worth getting that worked up over.

[nenevomito]

Right, I've just got him out of the office and asked him to go on lunch early to calm down. He said "and what if I refuse?". I said that whether it was lunch or a walk I didn't care but he needs to calm down as its disrupting the whole department. He's gone back to his desk, but is quiet.

Apparently he's going to take this up with his manager when he's back in on Monday. Good for him. I will be doing the same.

Anyone got any gin?

[izzywhizzyletsgetbusy]

Gordon's do you? And have a few rocks and a slice of lemon while you''re at it

[KaraStarbuckThrace]

BH - have you borrowed his pen

Ranting like that is unprofessional!! You made a decision after evaluating the circumstances and he should have spoken to your privately and rationally if he disagreed with you.

[redrollers]

don't calm down, take him into a room and let rip
wanker

[GinAndWater]

Kara ROFL at the Pen

[BrainSurgeon]

Are you more senior than he is?

[GinAndWater]

oh and YANBU.

madonnawhore- my thoughts exactly

[betterwhenthesunshines]

What does anyone else in the office think? Has he done this sort of thing before?

[Clytaemnestra]

If you are more senior than him, and he is in the direct chain of command beneath you, then you need to deal with him today.

If he's equal/out of your chain of report then deal with his manager. Don't just let it go though.

[nenevomito]

Not KST & Gin, its not the chap whose pen I borrowed PMPL!

Thanks for the Gin.

He's not under my chain of command, he's under my alter-ego who is on the same grade, but manages the other half of the department. He's not in until Monday.

Out of interest, he's emailed my manager, who has been back in touch to tell him I was right. I think I will be talking to both his manager and my manager on Monday to discuss this as I am beginning to wonder whether his problem is with me as this isn't the first time he's been rude to me - although not in front of the rest of the office - and I want it nipping in the bud.

[brass]

your manager backed you up (good on him/her) so you can leave today with the upper hand.

On Monday remain calm and composed hopefully he will lose it again and lose his credibility in the process.

Whatever the crisis making a scene is a no no. You talk your differences out and agree a way forward. Shouting and ranting in front of people who aren't even involved is ridiculous.

What a prat.

[izzywhizzyletsgetbusy]

His buds certainly need nipping.



Would you care for a top-up?

[wrongdecade]

YANBU
who the hell does he think he is ranting at a senior? needs a swift reality check and you're probably the one to give it.