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MoaningLisa Fri 27-May-11 13:56:49

I am sure you have all heard on the news that there has been an outbreak of measles.

Papers, Schools, Hv, Drs are saying if you or your child haven't had the vaccine(s) now would be a good time to get it done.

I cant help but think though that the parents who haven't and wont get their child vaccinated are putting their children at risk.

Aibu to think that its just bloody selfish and very daring to play with their own childs life?

LilQueenie Fri 27-May-11 13:58:11

yabu because there is possibly more chance that a child who was vaccinated with the actual virus caused it.

GandTiceandaslice Fri 27-May-11 13:59:02

Very weirdly, I had a call from my doctors the other day saying my DD hadn't had her booster.
She's 11!
I'm quite blush
I feel terrible. Especially as she'll go mad when she hears she has to have this injection. I can't see how I managed tio miss it the 1st time arounbd though.

MoaningLisa Fri 27-May-11 14:00:00

Lil how was it? If a child is not vaccinated then they can become a carrier, rather than a child who has had the vaccine.

Gastonladybird Fri 27-May-11 14:00:53

When do you need booster as seems to vary
From area to area?

manicbmc Fri 27-May-11 14:01:57

Utter rubbish as the viruses used in vaccines are not 'live' or you would be advised to keep your kids away from others/pregnant women etc. after they have been vaccinated.

If people hadn't believed the crap about the MMR causing autism (which has been completely discredited) then there wouldn't be an outbreak now.

My kids are immunised. I'm immune to mumps as have had it and also had rubella but am now wondering if I should ask about getting a measles immunisation for myself as it wasn't available when I was a kid.

slowshow Fri 27-May-11 14:02:00

I don't quite follow, LilQueenie. Even if a vaccinated child caused it (and I'm not sure that's possible - is the measles vaccine live? I have no idea) it's the unvaccinated children who spread it, surely?

PaisleyLeaf Fri 27-May-11 14:02:32

Sometime, later next week, when this thread is still running, you're going to rue the day you started this thread.
Mark my words.

donnie Fri 27-May-11 14:05:27

why should people be forced to get the MMR though, if all they want is a measles vaccine? who would want unecessary vaccinations? if the govt had made single vaxes available then a lot more children would have been vaccinated(bangs head against wall).

Going to hide this thread now. Good luck with it.

MoaningLisa Fri 27-May-11 14:06:09

slowShow
Thats what i thought.
Itds obvious that the children not vaccinated are spreading it, not the that have been vaccinated.

Both my boys have and only a few weeks ago there was a notice on the nursery door saying there was an outbreak of measles and if your child has not been vaccinated, keep them away from nursery.

cushionyet Fri 27-May-11 14:06:09

I dunno if she will regret starting it to be honest... Unless she cares hugely about people being all big and horrible to her on the scary internet. If I had started a thread along similar lines, I wouldn't give a shit how many anti-vaccination supporters came along and told me why I was supposedly wrong, because I don't think I am.

LilQueenie Fri 27-May-11 14:08:01

well even with the vaccine you are not immune to ever getting the disease. Its a major myth you cant catch it if you have the vaccine.

fastedwina Fri 27-May-11 14:09:47

curious to know how many have actually opted out of the recommended vaccines. I'd imagine it's still a very small number - wonder what the stats are.

manicbmc Fri 27-May-11 14:10:27

The cases where that has happened are such a minute percentage that you'd have to have a damn good reason not to immunise imo.

It is those who get measles, not those that have been immunised, who are passing it on.

LilQueenie Fri 27-May-11 14:12:40

How effective is this vaccine?
The first dose of MMR vaccine produces good immunity to measles (95–98%), mumps (97%), and rubella (95%). The second dose of MMR is intended to produce immunity in those who did not respond to the first dose, but a very small percentage of people may not be protected even after a second dose.

and it is actually a live virus used. Although other vaccines dont always use a live virus.

midnightexpress Fri 27-May-11 14:13:04

Hmm, don't know about that lilQueenie. Apparently in the French outbreak, 90-95% of those infected have been unvaccinated and of the remaining 5-10% almost all of them have not had the booster.

Dappylittlemomma Fri 27-May-11 14:13:28

Donnie- 'who would want unecessary vaccinations'. Rubella and Mumps are not exactly completely unnecessary and unwanted vaccinations.

DoMeDon Fri 27-May-11 14:13:42

DD hasn't had it - I'm not sure what to do now TBH. I only wanted to have the measles and felt she was too young to be exposed to 2 other vaccines at the same time.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar Fri 27-May-11 14:14:46

What Paisley said grin

JBellingham Fri 27-May-11 14:16:15

If you do not give your child your immunisation insurance, fine. If it gets measles don't complain when it gets damaged or broken.

frakyouveryverymuch Fri 27-May-11 14:16:16

MMR is a weakened live viral vaccine but it's highly unlikely that a recently vaccinated child will transmit it, although if they're immunosuppressed for any reason they might develop the disease(s).

pooka Fri 27-May-11 14:16:19

LiQieenie - surely if a child has had the first AND second injections of MMR or single vax it would be incredibly unusual/unlucky for them to get measles?

That's not really a reason to not vaccinate, is it? I mean, a child is significantly more likely to get measles if they haven't been vaccinated at all rather than if they have had both jabs. It's like saying "my child could still die if the car crashed and they were in a suitable child restraint, so I won't bother fitting car seats". Or "my child could still die if they hit their head falling off a bike while wearing a helmet, so I won't make him wear a bike helmet".

ThistleDoNicely Fri 27-May-11 14:16:34

Uptake of MMR vaccine is 90%. I'm quite shocked 10% of parents would not get their child vaccinated. It has been proved safe so why would you leave your kids at risk?

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar Fri 27-May-11 14:18:28

LilQ according to the NHS website the vaccine is live, but the virus is weakend and cannot infect other people.

DioneTheDiabolist Fri 27-May-11 14:18:32

DoMeDon, if you want to get your DD the vaccination contact your GP and they will be very glad to arrange it.

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