non military scouts?

[knittedbreast]

Hiya was wondering if anyone knew if there was a non military version of the scouts that exists at all for little boys of about 5/6?

Thanks

[bubblecoral]

Beavers?

[MrSpoc]

I thought that Scouts was non military? What you are on about is the Army Cadets.

[MrSpoc]

Beavers used to be just for little gilrs so if you have a little boy the cubs would be better but I cannot remember the age groups.

[MotherMucca]

Woodcraft Folk? left leaning and definitely not militarian or royalist. I want my son to go, but there aren't any near us.

[knittedbreast]

beavers is the younger version i think, no scouts/beavers is military there is another one i just cannot remember the name of it......argh!

[aldiwhore]

Depends where you are and what you want? I grew up by the sea, we had a choice between sea scouts, sea cadets, and a local youth club who did everything the other two groups did but with a heavily Christian influence.... have to say my brother was involved in all of them, loved them all and isn't now either Christian or a soldier.

Beavers/cubs/scouts... are they military??

[scurryfunge]

Cubs, Beavers and Scouts are all military based, MrSpoc.

[squeakytoy]

scouts are not military are they?

cubs?

[gkys]

ok how is the scouting movement military? genuine question

[scurryfunge]

Baden Powell based it on the military - uniform, insignia,etc

[bubblecoral]

Beavers is the younger version of cubs which is the younger version of scouts.

I had no idea they were military based, they are a multi faith organisation. Are you sure about them being military?

If they are, it is not remotely evident at my ds's cub group.

[aldiwhore]

I thought Cadets were military

Beavers/scouts/cubs are a Christian based organisation aren't they? I know they do church parades etc., but haven't ever seen anything remotely military, more old school regimentation at times but certainly not overtly military.

[knittedbreast]

the woodcraft folk! thats it!

[MrSpoc]

Sorry but Scouts have nothing to do with military. I used to go when i was younger and left to join the Army Cadets because thats what I wanted to do as a career. Not sure where you have got the idea from. Next you will say the DofE is also military

[LornMowa]

Beavers is part of the scout movement for the youngest children (6-8 year olds). They also admit girls as do Cubs and Scouts. Cubs is for boys aged 8-10 and Scouts for those aged 10+. I really wouldn't describe any of these organisations as "military". The nearest they may get would be when they go on camping trips or do a spot of map reading.

[bubblecoral]

There's boys brigade, but I'm not sure how young they go, and from what I can tell they are much more religious than scouts.

[aldiwhore]

Based on the military ideas yes, I'd go with that, but they're not a military organisation.

Are they the same 'brand' as Rangers?

[bruxeur]

Oh lol.

He'd better not get a Saturday job with Micky D's in the future, then - they have a uniform and insignia too. Gold star for every ten enemy soldiers garrotted, that's what I heard.

[scurryfunge]

It has moved away from the military image but that was what it was based on originally. Marching about a lot, having ranks, wearing a uniform, church based stuff, etc

[knittedbreast]

sorry when i said military its because they are based on regiment etc and yes they do all have a mild christian influence too. i found it in the end its woodcraft folk, but thank you those who answered!

[meditrina]

I'd say it's the other way round! Faith is an intrinsic part of the Promise.

It was never a formal military organisation, and the military influence has dropped away now.

[bubblecoral]

Out of interest, why would you not want your child to go to a group that was loosely based on the military such a long time ago?

[UniS]

OP- Woodcraft folk and maybe Badgers would fit your request I guess.


Woodcraft and badgers both have expections that you and your child will fit into the group activities and timetable. Both are Co-ed at age 5/6

Beavers is pretty informal and doesn't appear military to my eyes tho, so if Beavers is all that is on offer in your area why not try it out.

[knittedbreast]

because i was looking for the alternative group! not really into the military at all and just wanted to find the group that did simialr things like camping etc