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aliena Sun 15-May-11 15:28:09

Has anyone read the report featured in today's on line Mail stating that a committee set up by the Council of Europe has issued a report saying that wifi should be potentially banned from school since it can potentially cause cancer and affect developing brains? And that this was a health crisis in the making akin to asbestos, smoking and lead in petrol?

My DC's school (small and in a house) has had its wifi updated recently to what the principal (who is technology mad and wants all pupils ultimately to bring in laptops) described as "industrial" standards.

At home I always switch off our wireless box at night just because well I have always been a little sure about how it might affect the DC. And now I've read this article I'm even more concerned. Any thoughts? I know I'm probably being unreasonable.

aliena Sun 15-May-11 15:30:42

sorry here's the link : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387291/Mobile-phones-wi-fi-banned-schools-theyre-potentially-harmful.html#comments

meditrina Sun 15-May-11 15:33:17

It's on the front page of today's Telegraph as well.

And it's a Council of Europe ruling, so it is unlikely to be ignored.

vajazzhands Sun 15-May-11 15:34:05

You'll have a load of people on here in no time telling you to sit indoors with a tinfoil hat but I don't think yabu really. I mean we do have wifi in our house and its a risk we've chosen to take but I do worry as this will be the first generation to grow up with it in their homes and we don't know for certain there will be no problems until they are grown right?

beckibicker Sun 15-May-11 15:38:51

its old news, they have been going on about this for at least three years now

JemAndTheHolograms Sun 15-May-11 15:56:26

YANBU. I've never really thought about it before, but there could be some truth in it. It would be a step backwards technologically to restrict Wi-fi usage though as nearly every home, business and school in the country now has it. confused

atswimtwolengths Sun 15-May-11 16:05:48

The main reason I'd want to have a ban is because of the addiction so many teenagers show towards their mobiles. I teach in a college and about half the students are absolutely addicted. Even if they promise not to use it, they have to have it within sight and often stroke it (not checking messages, just touching it for comfort.) They admit that they couldn't cope if it was taken off them.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou Sun 15-May-11 16:11:55

Yabu

meditrina Sun 15-May-11 16:12:40

Telegraph article here. I had a look at the CofE website to see if there were further info there, but didn't spot fresh news on this, so it's not clear why it's headline news again.

CofE rulings aren't binding on Govt's, but do usually get passed into treaty or law. They're not tackling domestic use of wifi:

The committee concluded that member states should:
• Set thresholds for levels of long-term exposure to microwaves of the type emitted by mobile phones;
• Introduce clear labelling on products indicating the presence of electromagnetic fields and any health risks associated with use;
• Ban all mobile phones and wireless networks in classrooms and schools;
• Run information campaigns aimed at children and young adults about the risks to human health;
• Step up research on less-dangerous types of antennae and mobile phones.

This all sounds fine to me.

SafetyFirst Mon 16-May-11 10:41:47

Hi
There's loads of evidence that the fields are harmful but don't expect the government nor industry to tell you!
We've got everything cabled including the phones as cordless landlines emit all the time and some people say that's why everyone is getting cancer, especially women and breast cancer.
I won't give my children phones either. Don't want them to get a brain tumour.
I found these sites
www.wifiinschools.org.uk
www.wiredchild.org

spinneyhorse Fri 30-Sep-11 06:00:13

The French Government have banned all WiFi from Schools and Public Buildings!

magdahavas com/

es-uk info


Sent in by Pedro Belmont

Int J Neurosci. 2011 Sep 5.
Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity: Evidence for a Novel Neurological Syndrome.

McCarty DE, Carrubba S, Chesson AL, Frilot C, Gonzalez-Toledo E, Marino AA.
Source

1Department of Neurology, LSU Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, Louisiana, USA.
Abstract

ABSTRACT Objective: We sought direct evidence that acute exposure to environmental-strength electromagnetic fields (EMFs) could induce somatic reactions (EMF hypersensitivity). Methods: The subject, a female physician self-diagnosed with EMF hypersensitivity, was exposed to an average (over the head) 60-Hz electric field of 300 V/m (comparable with typical environmental-strength EMFs) during controlled provocation and behavioral studies. Results: In a double-blinded EMF provocation procedure specifically designed to minimize unintentional sensory cues, the subject developed temporal pain, headache, muscle twitching, and skipped heartbeats within 100 s after initiation of EMF exposure (p < .05). The symptoms were caused primarily by field transitions (off-on, on-off) rather than the presence of the field, as assessed by comparing the frequency and severity of the effects of pulsed and continuous fields in relation to sham exposure. The subject had no conscious perception of the field as judged by her inability to report its presence more often than in the sham control. Discussion: The subject demonstrated statistically reliable somatic reactions in response to exposure to subliminal EMFs under conditions that reasonably excluded a causative role for psychological processes. Conclusion: EMF hypersensitivity can occur as a bona fide environmentally inducible neurological syndrome.
PMID:
21793784
[PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

Nesbo Fri 30-Sep-11 06:55:07

I don't suppose there is any point during an average day in London when you are not within range of multiple wifi networks. My phone can "see" 4 at the moment, but there are probably more. I don't think banning them in schools would make much difference here.

wellwisher Fri 30-Sep-11 08:46:18

Yes, it's terrifying. hmm

Here are some other things that the Daily Mail reckons are carcinogenic, pasted from a Facebook page that keeps track:

ABORTION www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1288955/Abortion-triple-risk-breast-cancer.html
AGE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-449783/Women-birth-age-30-double-risk-breast-cancer.html
AIR POLLUTION www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-358875/Pollution-cars-linked-child-cancer.html
AIR TRAVEL www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-200443/Frequent-fliers-raise-cancer-risk.html and www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-591109/Cancer-risk-frequent-fliers.html
AIRPORT SCANNERS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009947/Airport-scanner-row-leaves-angry-doctor-grounded-claims-machines-cause-cancer.html
ALCOHOL www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-147083/Drink-day-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html and www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-471910/Bowel-cancer-danger-just-glass-wine-day.html
ALLERGIES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-324732/Child-allergies-raise-cancer-risk.html
ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-55023/Cancer-causing-chemicals-soy-sauce.html
ARTIFICIAL LIGHT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-391267/Artificial-light-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html
ASBESTOS (as if it wasn’t bad enough already) www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170584/Asbestos-schools-kill-pupils-warns-teacher-dying-lung-cancer.html
ASPIRIN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-205490/Asprin-link-cancer-risk.html
BABIES www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-157683/Birth-size-link-breast-cancer.html
BABY BOTTLES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1038697/EU-rejects-ban-baby-bottles-linked-early-puberty-breast-cancer-miscarriage-infertility.html
BABY CAR SEATS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1388348/Is-babys-car-seat-causing-cancer-New-study-reveals-carcinogens-foam-padding-used-baby-products.html
BABY FOOD www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-199887/Baby-food-cancer-alert.html
BACON www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1102368/Additives-used-bacon-ham-chicken-make-cancers-grow.html
BARBEQUES www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-326153/Australians-warned-backyard-cancer-risk.html
BATH WATER www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431777/Chlorine-bathwater-linked-cancer.html
BEEF www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-393666/Alarm-beef-link-breast-cancer.html
BEER www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1161843/Just-pint-beer-day-raise-risk-prostate-cancer.html
BEING A BLACK PERSON www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1064547/Black-men-times-likely-prostate-cancer.html and www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-508753/Black-women-develop-breast-cancer-decades-earlier-white-women.html
BEING A WOMAN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-63976/Cancer-risk-higher-women-smokers.html
BEING A MAN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-306543/Men-twice-likely-die-cancer-women.html
BEING A SKINNY GIRL www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1266092/Skinny-girls-greater-risk-developing-breast-cancer.html
BEING A TALL WOMAN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2017080/Why-taller-women-likely-diagnosed-cancer.html
BEING SOUTHERN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1027331/Why-affluent-women-South-likely-die-breast-cancer.html
BISCUITS www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-126342/Cancer-foods-avoid.html
BLOWJOBS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-453843/Oral-sex-cause-throat-cancer.html
BRAS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-182370/Is-bra-bad-you.html
BREAD www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-411506/White-bread-increases-cancer-risk.html
BREAST FEEDING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-178756/Whos-risk-breast-cancer.html
BREAST IMPLANTS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-41443/Breast-implants-cancer-scare.html
BROKEN HEARTS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-450049/How-heart-broken-grief-send-early-grave.html
BUBBLE BATH www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-403703/Is-bubble-bath-safe.html
BURGERS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-467360/Cancer-scare-food-colour-added-sausages-burgers.html
CAFFEINE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1127473/Coffee-raise-child-cancer-risk-New-evidence-caffeine-damage-babies-DNA.html
CALCIUM www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1052127/Fatal-cancer-risk-men-high-blood-calcium-levels-say-US-researchers.html
CANDLE-LIT DINNERS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1207726/Candles-release-scents-laced-cancer-chemicals-warn-scientists.html#ixzz0dufFps6a
CANNED FOOD www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-44676/Gender-bending-chemicals-tin-cans.html
CARBOHYDRATES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-313227/Low-carb-diets-beat-breast-cancer.html
CARS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-358875/Pollution-cars-linked-child-cancer.html
CEREAL www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html
CATS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2019170/Can-cat-cancer-Parasite-bellies-linked-brain-tumours.html
CEREAL BOXES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1364068/Recycled-cereal-boxes-contain-dangerous-levels-cancer-causing-mineral-oils.html
CHEESE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1002424/Italy-shuts-mozzarella-production-toxin-fears-spread.html
CHICKEN www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-429303/Families-risk-toxic-imported-foods.html
CHILDLESSNESS www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-474820/SUZANNE-MOORE-Im-sick-told-fault.html
CHILDREN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506501/Prostate-risk-having-family-according-new-study.html
CHILDREN’S FOODhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-201390/Health-warning-childrens-food.html
CHILLIS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-347287/Cancer-checks-spices-new-food-dyes-alert.html
CHINESE MEDICINE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-75547/Warming-cancer-risk-Chinese-medicines.html
CHIPS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-487571/Parents-told-chips-cause-cancer.html
CHLORINE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431777/Chlorine-bathwater-linked-cancer.html
CHOCOLATE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-386625/Cancer-fears-chocolate-snacks.html
CITY LIVING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-496495/City-life-blamed-higher-risk-breast-cancer.html
CLIMATE CHANGE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-452789/Warmer-climate-mean-thousands-deaths-skin-cancer.html
COCA COLA www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-337178/Carrot-day-reduces-cancer-risk.html
COD LIVER OIL www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-379918/Cancer-fears-cod-liver-oil-capsules.html
COLD TEMPERATURES & LACK OF SUNLIGHT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1267653/Cold-temperatures-lack-sun-linked-prostate-cancer.html#ixzz0ll1ioCBU
COFFEE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3027/How-healthy-cup-coffee.html
CONSTiPATION www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-193698/Atkins-diet-cancer-risk.html
CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-181273/Cancer-risk-45-higher-Pill.html
COOKING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-382571/Frying-increase-cancer-risk.html
CORDLESS PHONES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-515970/After-cancer-warnings-mobiles-home-phone-putting-health-danger.html
CRAYONS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6706/Safety-alert-best-selling-crayons.html
CURRY www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-342632/Cancer-dye-Grossman-curry-sauce.html
DENTAL X-RAYS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1283393/Ten-dental-X-rays-raise-cancer-risk.html
DEODORANT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-205705/Deodorants-linked-cancer.html
DETERGENT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2029873/Cancer-risk-perfumed-products-tumble-dryer-chemicals-air-vents.html
DIET COKE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1391395/Amid-health-fears-Diet-Coke-sweetner-safety-spotlight.html
DIETING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-73056/Is-diet-lifestyle-putting-risk-breast-cancer.html and www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1266591/Dieting-really-CAN-harm-health-Slimmers-higher-risk-heart-disease-cancer.html
DOGS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-490581/Can-dogs-breast-cancer-Bizarre-medical-theories-experts-claim-actually-true.html
EGGS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-50995/Cancer-chemicals-eggs.html
EGGS (free range) www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287301/Free-range-eggs-contain-times-pollution-caged-birds.html
ELECTRICITY www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-449679/Power-lines-link-cancer-new-alert.html
ENGLISH BREAKFAST www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049142/Traditional-English-fry-raise-risk-bowel-cancer-63-cent.html
FACEBOOK www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1149207/How-using-Facebook-raise-risk-cancer.html
FALSE NAILS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1174768/Having-nails-skin-cancer-doctors-warn-women.html
FATHERHOOD www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506501/Prostate-risk-having-family-according-new-study.html
FIBRE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4903/Fibre-cancer-risk-warning.html
FINGER LENGTH www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1334573/Is-finger-length-clue-increased-risk-getting-prostate-cancer.html
FISH www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-117840/Fish-cancer-scare.html
FIZZY DRINKS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1249305/Two-fizzy-drinks-week-raise-chance-getting-pancreatic-cancer-87.html
FLIP FLOPS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1025915/Wearing-FLIP-FLOPS-skin-cancer-doctors-warn.html
FLY SPRAY www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-459938/Using-pesticide-sprays-home-double-risk-brain-tumours.html
FRUIT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-371260/Breast-cancer-drug-cuts-death-risk.html
FRUIT JUICE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254534/Fruit-juice-cancer-warning-scientists-harmful-chemical-16-drinks.html
GARDENS www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-326153/Australians-warned-backyard-cancer-risk.html
GIVING BIRTH www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2035391/Breast-cancer-Having-daughter-gave-cancer--I-willingly-again.html
GRAPEFRUIT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-468559/Eating-grapefruit-increase-breast-cancer-risk-third.html
HAIR DYE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1017259/How-using-hair-dye-increase-risk-cancer.html
HAM www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-490845/Is-safe-eat-Cancer-report-adds-bacon-ham-drink-danger-list.html
HEIGHT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1064454/Bigger-taller-baby-girls-higher-risk-breast-cancer-says-study.html
HONEY www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-429303/Families-risk-toxic-imported-foods.html
HOT DRINKS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html
HOUSEPRIDE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1296134/Could-houseproud-raise-risk-breast-cancer.html
HRT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1214782/HRT-increases-risk-dying-lung-cancer.html#ixzz0dueJ7qOY
HUGGING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-436043/Hugging-dad-gave-terminal-cancer.html
HULA HOOPS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1055471/Cancer-chemical-Pringles-Hula-Hoops-Prince-Charless-organic-crisps.html
INTERNET www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-312505/Cancer-patients-risk-websites.html
IVF www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-148228/How-IVF-raises-cancer-risks.html
KIDNEY TRANSPLATS www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-459097/TV-prize-kidney-carries-risk-cancer.html
LAMB www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-446559/Red-meat-link-higher-risk-breast-cancer.html
LARGE HEADS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-370870/Big-headed-babies-prone-cancer.html
LEFT-HANDEDNESS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-363477/Left-handers-likely-breast-cancer.html
LIGHTBULBS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506082/Environmentally-friendly-light-bulbs-skin-cancer.html
LIPSTICK www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-499967/Is-lipstick-giving-cancer.html
LIVER TRANSPLANTS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-207838/Cancer-liver-transplant-killed-husband.html
LONG RING FINGER www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1296364/A-long-ring-finger-mean-youre-prostate-cancer-risk.html
MENOPAUSE www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-395201/Weight-gain-menopause-increases-breast-cancer-risk.html
MENSTRUATION www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-68946/Do-women-need-periods.html
METAL www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1081692/The-metals-daily-glass-wine-linked-cancer-Parkinsons.html
MILK www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-328863/Milk-linked-ovarian-cancer.html
MOBILE PHONES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-473553/Orange-remove-mobile-mast-tower-doom-cancer-rate-soared.html
MODERN LIVING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-474157/Modern-living-blame-cancer-epidemic.html
MONEY www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1025375/Wealthy-background-raise-risk-cancer-teenagers.html
MORPHINE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1230208/Pain-drug-morphine-cause-cancer-spread.html#ixzz0dudlHqN2
MOUTHWASH www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1113422/Mouthwash-causes-oral-cancer-pulled-supermarkets-say-experts.html
NUCLEAR POWER (there is no hint of irony in this article) www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-42066/New-study-links-nuclear-sites-cancer.html
OBESITY www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-245997/Obesity-raises-risk-cancer.html
OESTROGEN www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4098/Oestrogen-link-breast-cancer.html
OLDER FATHERs www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1223025/Why-older-fathers-likely-children-genetic-disorders.html#ixzz0dudLlJsP
PASTRY www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html
PEANUT BUTTER www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1164417/Food-watchdog-warning-peanut-butter-brand-containing-cancer-causing-fungus.html
PERFUME www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1051130/How-perfumes-scented-creams-make-unborn-baby-infertile.html
PICKLES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-115696/How-safe-favourite-foods.html
PIZZA www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-341698/New-food-dye-warning.html
PLASTIC BAGS www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1207840/Plastic-decomposes-sea-releases-cancer-causing-chemicals-study-warns.html#ixzz0duexZlFs
PORK www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1093039/After-alert-Irish-pork-safe-beef.html
POTATOES www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-115037/Cancer-chemical-link-cooked-food.html
POVERTY www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-474820/SUZANNE-MOORE-Im-sick-told-fault.html
PREGNANCY www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-82458/Breast-cancer-risk-career-women.html
PRINCE CHARLES ORGANIC CRISPS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1055471/Cancer-chemical-Pringles-Hula-Hoops-Prince-Charless-organic-crisps.html
PRINGLES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1055471/Cancer-chemical-Pringles-Hula-Hoops-Prince-Charless-organic-crisps.html
RADIOACTIVITY (again, just no irony whatsoever) www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-421140/As-radioactive-spy-buried-bar-staff-served-facing-cancer-risk.html
RICE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-444222/Rice-tainted-arsenic-raises-risk-cancer.html
SAUSAGES www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-550729/Why-eating-just-sausage-day-raises-cancer-risk-20-cent.html
RETIREMENT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1220446/Oh-Work-good-especially-youve-retired.html#ixzz0ducbviCE
SEX www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-191219/Did-sex-cancer.html
SHAVING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-206459/Shaving-raise-cancer-risk.html
SKIING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-206243/Skiers-warned-cancer-risk.html
SOUP www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1132814/Salty-soups-increase-cancer-risk-says-expert.html
SPACE TRAVEL www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1015482/How-astronauts-risk-cancer--premature-ageing--travelling-space.html
SUN CREAM www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-592076/Cancer-fear-childrens-sun-creams.html
SWEETS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2028812/Womb-cancer-linked-sugary-diet-Sweet-snacks-increase-risk-33.html
TALCUM POWDER www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1063040/Cancer-alert-talc-Women-using-powder-day-risk.html
TATTOOS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2032696/Now-tattoos-cancer-U-S-regulator-probes-fears-inks-contain-carcinogenic-chemicals.html
TEA www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-87131/Too-tea-treble-cancer-risk-women.html
TEEN SEX www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1237530/Girls-sex-teens-greater-risk-developing-cervical-cancer.html#ixzz0dudvXOF7
THIRD HAND SMOKE (read article and you'll understand) www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1249591/Even-hand-smoke-dangerous--especially-children.html
TILL RECEIPTS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1336770/High-levels-cancer-chemical-till-receipts.html
TURNING ON THE LIGHTS AT NIGHT TO GO TO THE LOO www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1265277/Cancer-danger-night-time-trip-toilet.html
VITAMINS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-320006/Vitamin-pills-cause-early-deaths.html
WAR IN IRAQ www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259393/Colin-Brazier-asks-Did-Iraq-war-cancer.html
WATER www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13620/Cancer-link-tap-water-radon-hotspots.html
WELL-DONE MEAT www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1267409/Well-cooked-meat-increase-risk-bladder-cancer.html
WI-FI www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-456534/The-classroom-cancer-risk-wi-fi-internet.html
WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-338899/Dye-alert-spreads-school-meals.html
WORKING www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1031934/Why-men-desk-jobs-higher-risk-prostate-cancer.html
X-RAYS www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-207035/X-rays-bring-risk-cancer.html

YABU

Tee2072 Fri 30-Sep-11 08:55:45

Here's the thing. Wifi are, basically, radio signals. Like what you get Radio 4 on. So they've been in the air for about 100 years.

There is no way to prove, even if cancer rates go up, that wifi caused it as there is no way to create a control group that is never exposed to wifi.

Scaremongering. Wifi is here to stay. In schools. In the air.

Whatmeworry Fri 30-Sep-11 08:58:09

Wifi is less powerful a wave than mobile is, I will count the days it takes for them to work that out...

WorzselMummage Fri 30-Sep-11 09:03:24

Love your post wellwisher grin

Spinnyhorse I have had all the symptoms you list and they were caused by Anxiety. MY house is a mecca for micro/radio waves and a gadget hub and antidepressants sorted me out, they work well on paranoia too.

mybrainsthinkingfuckyou Fri 30-Sep-11 09:03:54

Okay...so I log on to mumsnet whenever i am breastfeeding or at night when co-sleeping.

Have wireless netbook eee pc - can radiate heat and isn't a huge distance from me or baby.

Is it really scaremongery or should i be stopping my surfing at least with baby nearby, developing brain and all that... (she is currently babbling that i am being unreasonable as she is in her travelcot while i type this!)

spinneyhorse Tue 04-Oct-11 09:35:19

All truth goes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed, finally it is accepted as self evident. - Schopenhauer

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wellwisher Tue 04-Oct-11 09:56:01

hmm

Snorbs Tue 04-Oct-11 10:10:06

And all untruths go through the "first it is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed, finally it is accepted as a load of horse-shit" stages.

gordyslovesheep Tue 04-Oct-11 10:13:01

Snorbs smile

unnumpty Tue 04-Oct-11 17:20:33

Mybrainsthinkingfuckyou, you might as well take a precautionary approach with your baby's head. The government advice is that babies' and children's heads should not be exposed to radiation from mobile phones; they consider evidence about possible harm to be inconclusive so far, and extensive further research is underway.

MissBetsyTrotwood Tue 04-Oct-11 17:34:50

WorszelMummage grin

onagar Tue 04-Oct-11 17:59:23

wellwisher nice one grin

The funny thing is they probably are all carcinogenic - a little bit. The question is "is it significantly dangerous" and most things are not.

I have no idea if wifi is significantly dangerous, but as others have said I'm surrounded by wifi signals so it's probably not possible to prove if someone gets ill that wifi caused it.

unnumpty Tue 04-Oct-11 18:11:38

With babies and children, it's not just that their brains are still developing, but that their skulls are thinner than adults' skulls.

As the government says. In its advice.

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