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To think that giving up smoking can actually CAUSE cancer

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merrywidow Sun 27-Mar-11 20:11:28

Have seen several people give up smoking then develop lung / throat cancer.

spoke to a friend, she says the same of someone she knows.

A cell biologist I met actually asked if my H who died of lung cancer had given up smoking, I said he had a couple of years previously, then nodded sagely.

I googled the subject and found a docs forum where they actually discussed it; the thought was that as the body heals the cells then don't know when to stop dividing and go into overdrive becoming cancerous.

ImAIdoot Wed 15-Aug-18 17:29:22

There's some evidence to suggest that vaping may be highly carcinogenic as well, so giving up smoking may be not be as good for you if you vape heavily afterwards.

itchyknees Wed 15-Aug-18 14:43:23

look, if you smoke for 45 years, give up and die of cancer 4 months later I'm pretty sure the cancer developed whilst the smoking was still going on and your FIL just gave up too late after smoking too long 5inthebed

^^This.

viques Wed 15-Aug-18 14:40:14

flissmumsnet having read some of the rubbish being spouted on this thread I don't think any of us are in any doubt as to the absence of medical training, expertise or indeed basic common sense of some of the posters and their amazing cancer theories. but thanks anyway.

smile

foxtiger Wed 15-Aug-18 14:30:59

I have a relative who was diagnosed with a different type of cancer recently. Although he had only started having any symptoms (minor, but the sort they say you should get checked out) in the few weeks before the first appointment, the specialist said the cancer might have been growing slowly for 6 or 7 years! I can't be certain lung cancer behaves in the same way, but it does sound as if maybe anyone who is diagnosed quite a short time after giving up smoking might have had it for quite some time before they gave up. I wonder if the tell-tale sign that made them seek advice was that the "smoker's cough" didn't disappear after stopping smoking!

Confusedbeetle Sun 12-Aug-18 17:17:31

The smoking has already caused the damage and the illness have shown up after the cessation

FlissMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 12-Aug-18 17:08:03

Hi Everyone,

We're just dropping in uninvited to remind you all that we can't vouch for the medical expertise of anyone posting on MN and when in doubt about any health condition; we'd always advise seeking professional medical help irl.

flowers

Kayla1892 Sun 12-Aug-18 13:46:20

I’m not stupid in th slightest Thankyou. I was just saying what the doctors have been saying.

Storm4star Sun 12-Aug-18 13:35:31

I know this is a zombie thread but I wanted to comment as there is some truth in what the OP said. Whatever the reasons may be, it is more common to be diagnosed with lung cancer after giving up. But the way to combat it is not to carry on smoking, but just to not quit “cold turkey”. Anyone who is a heavy smoker should look to reduce their smoking over a period of time before finally giving up. Same as a heavy drinker would. When you think of all the crap that cigarettes are full off, of course stopping suddenly is going to be a shock to the system. And yes increasingly research is highlighting that this is a problem.

hobnobsaremyfave Sun 12-Aug-18 13:23:03

Holy fuck you really can’t cure stupid

Kayla1892 Sun 12-Aug-18 13:13:33

Actually it did kinda happen just over night it’s a fast growing cancer that can kill within 2 months without treatment. So after stopping smoking your suppose to be such less risk and more healthy how can someone get such an aggressive cancer st the age of just 48

Whitecurrents Sun 12-Aug-18 12:41:35

1) This was a bizarrely fuckwitted thread
2) It’s a zombie
Please stop and let it return to the undead

CherryPavlova Sun 12-Aug-18 12:25:49

How daft are people! Smoking causes lung cancer and many other illnesses including throat and mouth cancers.
Many smokers are in denial because of their addiction but it is irrefutable.
People will have had cancer growing inside for ages. It rarely happens overnight.

Kayla1892 Sun 12-Aug-18 12:01:29

It really isn’t. Even the doctors told us that stopping smoking for the first few months after is a big shock to
Your body.

Awwlookatmybabyspider Sun 12-Aug-18 11:55:14

I've never smoked in my life through choice.
Cigarettes have always turned my stomach.
I've never been a big drinker. It just doesn't interest me.
However my thoughts are "Youve got to die of something". Therefore you might as well enjoy your vices. If the grin reaper doesn't get you one way. He'll get you another way.

longwayoff Sun 12-Aug-18 11:42:48

Absolute bloody tosh. Are u sponsored by Imperial Tobacco?

Kayla1892 Sun 12-Aug-18 11:07:31

Is anyone still on here? I was just reading through evreyones messages. As my mum was diagnosed in December last year with small cell lung cancer that is very aggressive. She stopped smoking for 4years before diagnosis. It does make me think. As when she got diagnosed I stopped smoking myself now I’m thinking what if it was stopping that caused it..

tiggytape Sun 28-Dec-14 10:25:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

simosal Sun 28-Dec-14 08:21:50

yes this is not an argument to encourage smoking - it is always far healthier not to start! but once someone has been smoking for a number of years we do need to look into if giving up actually then encourages cancer cell growth! too many people die suddenly once they have given up and it needs looking into

bestmunchkinsever Fri 26-Dec-14 11:10:52

when I was quitting I joined a forum and on there was a man who was diarying his quit journey. A few months after quitting he was diagnosed with lung cancer. I had heard you theory before but thought that the link was perhaps more simple. That those who quit after many years smoking may do so because they already sense they are I'll subconsciously and this leads them to quit - with an inevitable diagnosis shortly after. The cancer must already be there to get a diagnosis so soon after quitting. I think, anyway.

fatlazymummy Fri 26-Dec-14 09:41:22

Mincespy sorry to hear that. 15% of lung cancers are not smoking related.
I just want to point that out , because there's a lot of blame attatched to lung cancer, as if it's 'self inflicted'.
Personally ,I think it's time we start to aim for a 'smoke free' society, though a lot of progress has already been made.
It's shocking to think how normal smoking used to be, and how so many people are paying the price now, 30 or 40 years down the line.

MinceSpy Fri 26-Dec-14 09:31:16

In my family there are no smokers yet we have lost two members to lung cancer.

fatlazymummy Fri 26-Dec-14 09:25:54

Thanks for that link, Muscat. Very interesting.
I gave up nearly 10 years ago, after being a heavy ,very addicted smoker for most of 29 years. I started feeling healthier within days, and love being a non smoker now. I want to encourage anyone who is thinking of quitting to do it.
My sympathy goes to Guybrush and everyone else who has to watch their loved ones suffer from smoking related illnesses.

MuscatBouschet Fri 26-Dec-14 08:56:54

This is an old thread but for those interested cancergrace.org/lung/2009/11/30/can-smoking-cessation-be-a-presenting-symptom-of-lung-cancer/

Inertia Fri 26-Dec-14 08:23:00

Sorry OP, I think your thread title is completely wrong - you've got your cause and effect the wrong way round.

It should be phrased in terms of the onset of cancer (and accompanying symptoms of being terribly ill) often being the trigger for people to finally give up smoking, even before the cancer is diagnosed.

GuybrushThreepwoodMP Fri 26-Dec-14 06:52:19

And if anyone is wondering, the state my dad is in in absolutely horrifying. He's 59. I can barely look at him. He has been mutilated. His voice has gone forever and he gets so angry and frustrated trying to communicate with us. His chest rattles as he draws in breath through a hole in the front of his neck. If he coughs, his chest barks and it comes through the hole. He has been nil by mouth for 2 weeks and that will continue for more weeks. When he can eat, he won't taste anything much and has no sense of smell. It is disgusting and I love him so much but I also hate him for doing this to himself. I can't believe that this is how he is now. He didn't love us enough to stop this. I sometimes wish he had died during his surgery and I hate myself for thinking that because he is my dad and I love him so much.

Just in case anyone was wondering what not giving up smoking can lead to.

I was a smoker too until 4 years ago. Never again. Couldn't do this to my daughter.

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