To hate living in Manchester (and North in general)(913 Posts)
Moved here four years ago to be with DH, and I still cannot get used to it. We are in a nicest area of Manchester, and it is still feels very provincial and boring. I dream about living in London, but DH does not want to look for a new job. I feel like there is no point and dont want to decorate the house, make friends, etc, I just fantasise about being in London every single day. There is not much to do here, no nice streets or galleries, not much to do on the weekends as a family. I went to London this weekend, it was so painful to come back. Does anybody else feel this way?
I moved the other way last year, from London to Liverpool and I absolutely love it here. There's so much to do, I've got amazing local independent shops where they know who you are and talk to you, the beach is ten minutes walk from my house, it's 15 minutes on the train into the city centre. Liverpool has some amazing restaurants and bars, and the best bit is it's only £9 in a taxi home rather than the £50 it used to cost me in London.
Hahahaha OP you are either pulling everyone's chain or a you are a very blinkered human being.
We live in a v posh part of London. I can't wait to move my DC somewhere where they won't have smoked the equivalent of a cigarette just by going on the tube or walking through the city centre. That is, when you can walk without 8,000,000 other people getting in the way.
Places like Kew Gardens are pretty enough but always rammed at the weekend and get boring pretty quickly. It's nothing in comparison to having the Peak District on your doorstep as you do in hale.
You sound like a perma-tourist, tbh!
I love living in Liverpool. I think it's a great city.
I think Liverpool is still a great city to visit as a tourist. I agree about the New York similarities.
Liverpool might have been a great city once, it isn't anymore.
Frankly, I like the fact that you can't walk round Manchester for 5 hours without hitting a motorway (not true of Liverpool, by the way!) - who the bloody hell would want to?
I'd never move from here. Liverpool is fantastic - the old buildings and the layout remind me so much of New York before it became the ultra-modern and tourist-y city it is now. In fact, did you know Central Park is actually based on Sefton Park? London never used to be the big city it is now - in fact Liverpool was often thought of as the famous city of Britain.
Plus, the fact that Cunard and the White Star Line were based in Liverpool says a lot about how much people respected it...
As Tuckers said Manchester isnt London but its never claimed to be but it has its own charms and theres still loads to and also has some beautiful surrounding countryside but i expect Op just doesnt want to like Manchester ah well.
to post comment after comment about how dire it is to live in the North in general is frankly, ridiculous.
Completely. Had it been a bit more 'I'm feeling homesick and have realised how much I really enjoy having all the national museums etc close by' I think people would have been more understanding.
But what's actually happened is just lots of stuff about how rubbish 'the north' is and how they just can't even manage to deal with having to go a bit out their way for things. The way some of the posts read you'd think Manchester was the arse end of nowhere. As a result, the entire thing reads like some snobby suburban socialite who wants to wander and drink overpriced coffees in trendy cafes.
Well her more recent posts have been complaining about nowhere to walk without bumping into the motorway.
And of course it doesn't have a capital city vibe. That's why I said it was far more like Guildford or St Albans. I've lived in and around all 3 as well as in London and she is without doubt comparing apples and pears.
If she wants the special buzz you get from being in the heart of a capital city then only a capital city will do but to post comment after comment about how dire it is to live in the North in general is frankly, ridiculous.
I hated living in both Guildford and StAlbans but I wouldn't have posted about how awful I found them on here and complained about the SE as a whole because others would rightly have jumped on me, pointed out how lovely and desirable they are and told me that perhaps they just weren't for me rather than that they were shit places to live. And if course, they would have been right.
I always lament the lack of capital city buzz when I visit cities which aren't capital cities. Maybe I will move to suburbs of one of said non capital cities and then moan about it. I'm sure I'll be easy to welcome.
we always liked the long walk from Lyme Park through the woods to Poynton
Woods and parks? How very provincial. She started this thread to complain about lack of buzz of a capital city in Manchester and people are sending her to woods and parks. Who in their right mind wants to go to woods and parks in a constant cold wet weather with a toddler in a pushchair?
It's the 'buzz of a capital city' that's missing in Hale, Manchester and the North in general. How dare suburban Cheshire not be like Chelsea? Everywhere else in the country has that capital city buzz, it's just the windswept and forever-raining North that lacks it and Manchester's the very worst, closely followed by Hale.
We live on the coast now with lots of beautiful walks just minutes away. But when we lived just south of Manchester there was always lots to do for a weekend walk. There was a large concentration of NT properties and we always liked the long walk from Lyme Park through the woods to Poynton. The boys could walk ahead and explore at leisure. There was so much for families to do up there. It's more difficult here and involves lots of driving.
Of course there will also be lots to do in London but I'm not sure how reasonable it is to hold up an affluent suburb on the outskirts of a city against the country's capital. I'd compare Hale to somewhere like Guildford or St Albans; 800k for your terraced house, nationally renound state schools and a Jojomamanbebe on the high street.
Yes, I had started this thread to complain about lack of buzz of a capital city in Manchester
Maybe you intended to do that, what you actually did was criticise Manchester (where you didn't live anyway) and the 'North in general' and compare it unfavorably to London because "there is not much to do here, no nice streets or galleries, not much to do on the weekends as a family".
There's plenty to do in Manchester and 'the North in general' but clearly it isn't London, it isn't a capital city, it doesn't have Royal parks, the Thames running through it or the vast majority of national institutions based there. That's not unique to Manchester and the 'North in general' though - it can be said of the whole country outside London.
So really what you're saying is that you moved to Manchester without any consideration that moving outside London would mean that you'd lose access to what you like about London and without appreciating that moving to a smaller city necessarily means it is smaller and doesn't take as long to walk around.
Yes Hale's very suburban, and Manchester's smaller than London. Unsurprisingly Kew Gardens isn't in Manchester, nor is the Thames. It has no Royal Parks, no palaces, and very few national landmarks.
If you want things that are unique to London then London is obviously the best place to find them. It's not just'the North' that's lacking the features you're looking for though, it's the whole country outside London. More fool you for not realising that.
That surprises me. I lived in London for some years and that was one of the things I did not like about London. Kew Gardens is beautiful, and St James Park, but I actually have more beautiful places to walk where I now live.
Brasty, I live in London and it's brilliant for walking, one of my favourite things about living here.
I challenge you to walk from Chelsea to Bishop's park and then to Kew gardens along the river and come back and tell me that it is not an amazing and inspiring walk! Much better than walking from Hale to Sale along the busy road with no trees. Or just going to the Battersea Park and walking towards the London Eye area. Though I admit I am not very keen on more touristy places like southbank etc. I usually cross the bridge and walk on the other side.
And with all due respect I suspect that Pope John Paul and I got completely different interests...
Just walking round Central London for 5 hours with kids? I am amazed that anyone would find that enjoyable. We go walking along the canal, round a local country park with a cafe and lots of things for kids there, round a big lake in another country park with a stop into the cafe. And loads more besides. London is great for museums and galleries. It is not good for walks.
Yes, I had started this thread to complain about lack of buzz of a capital city in Manchester and people are sending me to a Trans Pennine trail... And yes, I've been to Dunham Massey and it is quite amusing for the first 50 times you go there for a visit...
And babies can enjoy babyccinos in a lovely indie cafe environment.
Manchester is the last word in cool. Oasis.
Gritty, gorgeous and graceful too. What's not to like?
Oh god, how on earth did you cope with central London op? I've been a few times back when I lived there, and HATED it.
So so glad we're back up north.
I will die before I move to live North of England.
OP - my heart bleeds for you.
I could never do that in Hale. Where do you walk to? Do you walk along the busy road to Sale? Or down the motorway the other way?
Did you think of buying a map? Hale is within walking distance of Dunham Park, it's actually on the Bollin Valley Way and within walking distance of the Trans Pennine Trail, the Cheshire Ring Canal Walk and the Bridgewater Way. Tatton Park is a short bike ride away and places like Styal woods, Lymm Dam, Alderley Edge, Delamere Forest and Frodsham Hill are all less than 30 minutes drive away.
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