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To not want to accept this nursery place??

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TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:27:00

I was offered a place in a local nursery for DS2.

I have my reservations about it and tbh am not sure if i abu.

1- there are 45 in his class with 4 members of staff.
2- they don't do home visits but a parent teacher meeting in the school which I was meant to have today but made an excuse not to go.
3- when I went there yesterday by appt they were not prepared, couldn't find paper work needed etc.
4- I never recieved a letter about the place being offered just a call to say he started on the 4th of January.

I have spent the holidays getting him ready for starting yesterday, when I got him there, there was not another child there and it emerged that there had been a mistake and atually he didn't have a start date. But they found him one which is the 24th January.

Now I don't think I want to send him there as they seem so disorganised plus I didn't feel comfortable with in there.


TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:29:17

that should say while in there not with

Sirzy Wed 05-Jan-11 11:29:34

It's not legal to have a 45:4 ratio is it?

bubbleOseven Wed 05-Jan-11 11:29:50

it is a bit of a shambles I agree, but it's an ADMIN shambles, not a CHILDCARE SHAMBLES.

I would accept the 24th as a starting date but look elsewhere in the meantime in case I found something I preferred.

NorwegianMoon Wed 05-Jan-11 11:30:13

if you dont feel happy it is not the right nursery. 4 teachers among 40 kids is quite good, thats 1 teacher to 10 or 11 children. if they are taught in little groups this could work well. but its your feelings that matter here, follow your instincts they are always right

classydiva Wed 05-Jan-11 11:31:25

Four staff for a 45 children is insufficient, are you sure that is not just nursery qualified staff plus helpers.

Itsapuppet Wed 05-Jan-11 11:32:36

YANBU, you have to go with your instincts. However will this create a problem later, can you find alternatives, was this very much a one off especial as I guess they were just returning after the Christmas break? It may be worth talking through your concerns with them before making a final decision.

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:33:51

There are 2 nursery classes in each session one class has 35 pupils in and the other - which DS2 would be in has 45.

I don't know why but I just didn't feel at all comfortable in there. It is a surestart nursery, I took him a few times to the playgroups they run and never felt comfortable at them either.

There is 2 other schools local and one I know for definate is full and has a waiting list.

Am about to call the other one now.

marge2 Wed 05-Jan-11 11:35:28

Where I live 8:1 is the legal max for 3yo and overs in pre-school. It's 4:1 for 2-3 year olds. Once they hit primary it goes up . What age is your LO?

altinkum Wed 05-Jan-11 11:35:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

choppychopster Wed 05-Jan-11 11:36:08

Ratio in dd's nursery class which is part of a primary school is 52:4 (2 teachers, 2 TAs).

amberleaf Wed 05-Jan-11 11:37:14

Maybe you would have been better off going to the planned parent teacher meeting?

They may have seemed disorganised at your appt as it wasnt an official parent teacher meeting?

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:39:32

This was the first one I looked at tbh.

I was not going to send him to nursery but feel he needs it.

He is 3.4yrs old.

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:40:33

Amber, when they gave me the appt for 11am today I was told

"come in about 9.30 you will be seen at 11"

makes no sense to me tbh.

MorticiaAddams Wed 05-Jan-11 11:40:35

Our nursery also had a 8:1 ratio for 3-4 year olds.

I wouldn't worry about the admin side of things but rather the feel of the nursery and how happy the children and staff seem to be.

mutznutz Wed 05-Jan-11 11:43:46

I agree it's an admin issue and not a childcare issue. There is nothing wrong with that ratio as they will no doubt be taught in small groups.

You've left it very late to sort a nursery place but if you've made your mind up you don't like this one...please contact them as soon as possible so another child can take your child's place.

amberleaf Wed 05-Jan-11 11:44:35

Was it meant to be a session that you were mesant to stay at? one of mines first nursery session-i was expected to stay while he settled in just that first time.

I agree with Morticiaaddams, go with the general 'feel' rather than business sense

LIZS Wed 05-Jan-11 11:48:47

I would think you were expected to come in after 9.30, play with and settle him so that you were ready to meet the manager/do paperwork at 11. Lack of a home visit is not a symptom of disorganisation , I'd cosndier that unusual at nursery level. Are all 45 children there at the same time or do they each attend pt so that there are in fact less.

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:50:38

Mutz, I applied for the space last year. I only heard from them a few days before christmas.
I attended yesterday having been told that he would start then. to then be told he starts on the 24th.

Amber, yes thats what I had been told but as I said there was no other child there and I was given a different date.

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:52:22


Each session has 80 children.

80 in the morning and 80 in the afternoon.

I was told he started yesterday, went in with him was then told it was a mistake, that he started on the 24th.

And given an appointment today for parent teacher meeting.

Lulumaam Wed 05-Jan-11 11:54:44

it might have been a typo.. saying he started the 4th rather than the 24th

i'd give them a chance and if they carry on as lacksadasical and disorganised, i'd take him out... and look for alternative proviosn

mutznutz Wed 05-Jan-11 11:55:19

Well I can only go on my son's Infant school. The nursery there brings the parent and child in the child can meet the staff and wander round the nursery with parents. Then the parents sort the paper work with the office staff.

After that (because the paperwork has to be checked) the child is then given a start date usually 2 weeks later. This gives the nursery time to sort everyone.

Also, when the child is asked to come in with parents at say 9.30...the next child and parent will be asked in at 9.45 or 10am so there's a slow build up...this tends to be less scary for the child as they're not walking into a packed nursery class....and it's normally done over one week so there's only be around 5 or 6 kids and parents at any given time.

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 11:55:26

Lulu, I never got a letter just a phone call.

compo Wed 05-Jan-11 11:57:09

They do sound disorganised
have you an alternative preschool?

TheLadyEvenstar Wed 05-Jan-11 12:03:49

I have just phoned another school and they have a few vacancies.

I was told they will go first to siblings and then to children based on their locality

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