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TrillianAstra Fri 03-Dec-10 15:59:47


Reality says:
I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody.

classydiva Fri 03-Dec-10 16:01:32

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

Have you been in that situation and tried to get out?

It isn't as easy as your words make out.

nancydrewrockinaroundxmastree Fri 03-Dec-10 16:05:06

YANBU - some of the stuff I read on the rletionships thread makes me want to weep sad

TrillianAstra Fri 03-Dec-10 16:06:25

Not my words, the words of someone who had experienced it personally.

Not sure what made me repost it, not aimed at any thread in particular.

Mum2HarryandBen Fri 03-Dec-10 16:07:41


londonartemis Fri 03-Dec-10 16:08:55

I think what you posted is very important and we all probably need reminding of it from time to time.

mumbar Fri 03-Dec-10 16:14:12

excellent words of advice and a mantra to refer to when in that situation.

No, its not always easy to believe it or get out but I wish I had that hidden and read it every night many years ago - I may have believed it sooner.

hairyfairylights Fri 03-Dec-10 16:19:02

YANBU. I was looking for that thread the other day. Might save it to my favorites. grin

QueenGigantaurofMnet Fri 03-Dec-10 16:34:44

ClassyDiva - i have documented my history here many many times.

No one says it is easy but it IS possible to leave and it IS worth it.

I agree with everything that post says.

hairyfairylights Fri 03-Dec-10 16:49:42

I do too QueenGigantourofMunet.

I left the 'wrong' way - something I'm not proud of, but it was right to leave all the same,and whenever I feel guilty, that post really helps me to put things back in to perspective.

spikeycow Fri 03-Dec-10 16:56:01

Agree with all of it. Things like this, combined with examples of decent relationships and kind men, are what gets women thinking. You can't just say "leave im" it needs to be drummed into you when you are that low, from women who truly understand. Just saying "I'd never put up with it"to abused women decreases self esteem even more and means nothing.

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