To get my neighbour sectioned???

[iliketosleep]

I need some advice on a problem neighbour but i think he may have mental health issues!

Some of his history.

He moved into the street about 20 years ago after winning the pools, his wife ran off with another man about 7 years later.

We moved here last August but I grew up in the house 3 doors away where my Mum and Dad still live. We always used to play football outside the front of the house in the road and if our ball ever went down his drive he would run out and stab it. He also had a friend of mine up the fence by the throat. We were only 11, His dad came down and twatted him [thumbs up]

When my brother was 13 (he's now 20) he and a friend were sitting on the wall outside my parents house watching the bats that live in the roof of a house about 4 doors away from me. Neighbour came out with a video camera shoved it in brothers face and said "you were throwing stones at my house, why are you looking threw my windows? I know my rights, your gonna get locked up" My mum came out and covered the lens with her hand, ushered brother and friend inside and called the police. He was cautioned.

Another of my friends from the street moved into a house a couple of doors away and is a keen runner. Every day she used to go for a run, get home, go upstairs and change. Everyday neighbour used to stand in his garden with a pair of binoculars waiting for her. Her husband dealt with him.

Phew, this is a long post and I'm only half way through lol

When we moved in we had some bedroom furniture delivered quite late in the afternoon so had to wait till the kids went to bed before we put it together. I accidentally dropped a piece of wood and he shouted "SHUT UUUUUUUP" through the wall. The next day DH saw him in the garden, so opened the window and shouted "sorry about last night mate......" Neighbour interupted With "fuck off you stupid cunt, I know my rights and your gonna get fucked you twat just wait"

Yes this man knows his rights! grin

Fast forward a month or so and theres a knock at the door. It was enviromental health, they have had reports that my television is too loud and my alarm clock goes off in the morning (!) I ask if she can hear my tele from the doorstep and she admits that she can't, I asked her if alarm clocks were supposed to go off...lol She left nothing more was said or done.

Fast forward again to July. Enviromental health ring me to say they have had complaints that my alarm clock was going off. I told them that this was the idea of them and he wont have to worry for another 6 weeks as its the 6 weeks holidays.

Fast forward to the last 2 weeks. DH works nights so once the kids are in bed the house is pretty much silent. I have heard the occasional shout at around 12am.

Last week I had just come out the bath and had gone to get changed when there was a banging on the wall and neighbour shouted "shut up you fucking wanker aaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh". Worrying! Then from then there have been again the occasional shout but last night he went to bed singing at the top of his voice slamming doors etc at one point it was like an elephant walking up hollow stairs. Then tonight From about half past 9 this evening I have been hearing alot of AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH and WANKER FUCKING WANKER. His tele is up loud enough for me to know he is watching american and not long ago it was if he had come up to the wall to shout and it was a blood curdling sound like he is hurt. He isn't he's just a knob, but its scaring me

Does this behaviour sound familiar to anyone or what can I do, He only does it when DH is at work

[vicbar]

Just replied to your other thread. Id def call the police.

[iliketosleep]

Yeah I wasn't sure if anyone would reply there but this ones always full lol

[AdoraBelleDearhart]

Call the police on the non emergancy number.

[larks35]

I lived in a flat under a bloke that regularly shouted (at himself, I think) and I mentioned it to the landlord a few times (more for the bloke's sake than mine, he often gave himself a really hard time). Landlord didn't really know what to do tbh and the bloke was fine face to face. I would see him from a distance in the street and he'd have his head up ranting away but when he saw me he'd say hello and stop shouting. I felt really bad for him tbh, but he wasn't sectionable and until there is enough police support, nor is your neighbour. It's "care in the community", if they haven't hurt themsleves or others yet then they're not secionable. Does he own his flat or is it rented? Agree about reporting any abuse to police and landlord/council, it could go toward building a case for sectioning but it won't happen straight away.

[iliketosleep]

I'm worried about calling the police incase he turns nasty :(

[ApocalypseCheese]

Call the police.

And he's not a 'knob', he's mentally ill........

[ravenAK]

You can't actually get people sectioned, you know. It doesn't go on a neighbourhood vote!

You can go down the EnviroHealth route, as he's done, but I doubt occasional shouts would be covered.

Also, is he actually threatening you by calling out 'fucking wanker'? If he's shouting it at the telly, not you, it's not really a police matter.

Sorry.

[GypsyMoth]

Keep a diary is all I can offer, does he have any family?

[Anenome]

Lol at raven....she's right. It's a complicated business having someone seen by social services and all that. Though in my opinon he does sound like a paranoid freakazoid.....bless him...imagine living with that level of fear!

Does he have family? Who visit? If not defo call the cops.

I would be scared too....the blood curdling yell! SHIVER!

[SolidGoldBrass]

It's certainly worth calling the police if he is harassing you, but sectioning is something that you can;t just order done on someone you don't like.
ANd from what you have posted I owuld say the jury's out on whether he's mentally ill or an obnoxious, aggressive wanker.

[cheesesarnie]

you cant just get someone sectioned.
you can however phone someone like mind or rethink for advice.unless hes hurting himself or others the police cant do anything.
i saw on your other thread that his wife visits weekly.id maybe talk to her.
agree with apocalypse-being a knob doesn't mean hes mentally ill and viser verser(sp)

[bigchris]

Given what happened when you were kids I'm baffled as to why you moved in next door to him
you knew already he would be a pain to live next too

[secretgardin]

i would love to know how this turns out as he sounds like a carbon copy of my ex neighbour. we had the same attitude combined with the fact that ours didn't wash for six months, but nobody would do anything as social services said he didn't want to accept help and they thought he was fine phone the police first and then contact your local council asap. tell them you want to keep a diary as he's being offensive and intimidating, as they normally have a form and maybe you should ask your other neighbours to do the same. whatever you do, don't retaliate with noise (breathing is ok though) as he obviously has enviromental health on speed dial

[iliketosleep]

So many posts, sorry if I miss any.

I know sectioned is a bit harsh I was still shaking from the really loud scream at the time!

I will try and catch up with his ex as from what I can remember she seems quite nice. No-one else comes to visit him ever.

I knew he was weird when I moved in but I really like the house.

I'm not 100% sure he is talking to me but banging on my bedroom wall and shouting shut up you fucking wanker is a little bit suspicious.

Also forgot to mention in my first post that I have had to bring DC in from playing outside quite often as he will stand in his garden swearing and burping

I don't retaliate to his noise, Last night I had the tele on mute, the only noise was my washing machine.

Last night when I went to bed I put my tele on but could still hear his tele which was in his bedroom yet he was downstairs. I know cause I rang my mum to see if she could see him!

I will see how it goes over the weekend I think.

[cumfy]

Agree you should call police and make sure they refer to SS.

Don't understand, half your thread is as a child, then you seem to move in next to him as an adult .

Could you please explain. Thx.

[cumfy]

Another point to bare in mind is that he may be known to local psychiatric services.

So it is worth trying to get in touch w local mental health/psychiatry (google) as they may be able to visit directly.

[thereisalightanditnevergoesout]

Why not call the police everytime you hear him shout? They will come out and like others have said ask them to get SS involved. I was once woken up in my flat at 4 in the morning by 2 enormous police officers as there had been reports of screams coming from my flat (there weren't - I was asleep - and not generally in the habit of screaming at any time of the day).

If you have to bring your kids in from playing, that's really not good. I don't know much abou the law, but can't you be cautioned from swearing in public? Isn't it called 'affray' - even though it's in his garden - it's still infront of other people (your kids).

[Ariesgirl]

As someone who has a mentally ill brother (psychosis, schizophrenia - you name it), it doesn't really help when they are called freaks, nobs, thugs etc. However he does sound mentally ill, possibly with some kind of paranoid psychosis (based on the shouting and swearing at apparently nothing). But you can't just get someone sectioned. Keep a record. Call social services. Report him to Environmental Health. Call the police if something frightening or threatening happens. It must be very upsetting for you especially if you have children and I do sympathise, but you can't just get someone sectioned because they are odd. They need to represent a danger to themselves or to society.

[iliketosleep]

The house move - Its a nice house! I didn't think that even though he's a perving Jackass that records teenagers he would be like this IYKWIM

I just though he was a lonely bitter old man but it appears he's actually a loony.

Like I said the house is 3 doors away from the house I grew up in, complete with original neighbours. I was happy growing up here and know everyone here so it feels like home. He doesn't bother me any other time, the swearing and burping I can put up with cause I can bring the kids in and the problems solved. I can also handle the banging and loud tele as I'm sure to him, we are loud but there are 6 of us living here! I just do not like the constant screaming and shouting at night. I'm pretty sure its aimed at me (not 100% though) but still I'm here nearly every night on my own and have no urges to start yelling at the top of my voice its not normal!

[iliketosleep]

Ariesgirl- I dont mean to sound like a cow but I do not like this man. He may be mentally ill, he may even be a drunkenered but he seems to have some sort of vendetta against us even though we have done nothing to him. I did think that maybe he is jealous of the fact that we are a happy family and he is alone so he's taking that out on us? Who knows, but I don't like feeling uncomfortable in my own house especially that late at night :(

[cumfy]

Is it semi or terraced ?

Have you talked w previous neighbours ?

[iliketosleep]

I thought it could be at the tv but sometimes I will hear him come to bed bang a few wardrobe doors and scream "AAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH". His bedroom is next to mine so its quite loud. Like I said earlier, I wrote having him sectioned a bit tongue in cheek as at that point he had let out the blood curdling scream and I was sitting here shaking like a leaf!!

[iliketosleep]

No i'm not? I'm talking about my neighbour I haven't menitoned anyone else or anyone elses health anywhere! I don't understand how you get that from my posts and if i did come across like that then I apologise!


Its a semi detached, our houses are together but his neighbour the other side is about a house away from his.