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Anyone have DC with allergic colitis (from milk) -have you given soya?

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goldie12 Wed 10-Aug-05 14:05:11

My DS has a cow milk intolerance, the only symptom being colitis (blood in stools). We are weaning and at the moment he only has fruit, veg, baby rice and bit of chicken. I would quite like to try soya yoghurts or cook with some soya milk but am worried he will also be allergic to soya and have yucky colitis again.

So, just wondered if anyone else's DC had the same probs with milk and if they were, or weren't OK with soya! Thanks v. much

Charlee Wed 10-Aug-05 14:13:25

DS has a milk allergy and has now at the age of 11 months seem to have grown out of it (touch wood) but theres a thingy going on about not giving little boys soya milk as it can do damage when there older with there bits sorry im not sure what exactly, but we give ds nutramagin from the g.p

Charlee Wed 10-Aug-05 14:15:20

sorry that was so scatty! there is a thread about why you shouldnt give boys soya milk.

goldie12 Wed 10-Aug-05 14:51:40

Do you know what the thread is called Charlee? I know soya is a no-no for replacing formula but wondered about the odd yoghurt and bit for cooking?

jibberjabber Wed 10-Aug-05 15:26:44

I didn't use soya I used rice milk to cook with and to thin down foods, great stuff in my opinion. I wasn't keen to use soya myself.
DS suffered really badly with severe colitis and I worried he'd never be normal.

Now he troffs through enough cheese to sink a ship. Thankfully this will continue

jenk1 Wed 10-Aug-05 16:44:29

my dd is allergic to cows milk and soya. Her dietician tld us that babies who are allergic to cows milk are 50per cent times more likely to be allergic to soya so we dont give her any, have u tried getting nutramigen or neocate on prescription, think u have to go through specialist for this though

matnanplus Wed 10-Aug-05 16:50:42

What formula do you use? is it cows milk par sa or lactose in cows milk? if lactose then SMA do a formula called SMA LF you can buy or get on Rx, it can be used from birth to any age.

goldie12 Wed 10-Aug-05 18:14:06

Yes, DS has been on Nutramigen for 5 months now- he is 7 months old. We were told that he was more likely to be allergic to soya but just wondered now that he is past 6 months, whether it would be worth trying. I'm thinking it's not worth it now!!

I think I'm just trying to think of new things to introduce but at the same time I'm worried about more allergies. He has also had no gluten yet.

Jibberjabber- how did your DS do with gluten and when did you intro it? My DS is also awful with lumps- he can chew ok but then gags when swallowing and will projectile vomit - not nice! E.g. he couldn't handle millet flakes this morning so I resorted back to baby rice and fruit AGAIN!!

Any other ideas of what else I could introduce that is not too lumpy and avoids obvious allergens? Is the Susannah Oliver book good for this kind of thing?

Littlefish Wed 10-Aug-05 18:36:02

I've been using the Susannah Oliver book with my dd (8.5 months). So far, we've successfully avoided wheat, dairy, potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, citrus etc. She introduces them gradually, starting at about a year I think (I haven't read that far in the book yet). I've found it really useful and it has some lovely recipes. My dd isn't allergic to anything as far as I know, but I want to give her immune system the best chance to mature before giving her the most obvious allergens.

BTW, Susannah Oliver introduces bio-live organic yoghurt at 9 months, but this obviously wouldn't be suitable for your ds.

Chandra Thu 11-Aug-05 00:14:00

I suspected that DS had milk intolerance and tried soya formula for a while which didn't help the eczema and at the end I found a formula that suited him better and forgot about it. Now that DS has nut and soya allergy, I have some doubts about it, this is of course my impresion and not backed by scientific evidence (at least not that I am aware of) but if soya allergy goes hand on hand with nut allergy... I wonder what role did the soya formula played in the development these two allergies, after all, could such a notorious allergen being introduced at such an early stage could have some effects in certain children that may have certain sensibility to it???

tatt Thu 11-Aug-05 06:40:35

I gave soya milk to the child who now has a nut allergy. There is a theoretical reason to worry (soya and nut are in the same family, both legumes) but I'm still not comnvinced it isn't just that children with a genetic risk of allergies are more likely to be given soya.

Still soya is also quite a common allergen and there is the concern about whether the oestrogens in soya are damaging to boys (small risk if there is one). So I'd hesitate to suggest using soya now if there was an alternative.

Somewhere in the allergy section someone posted a link to a good weaning chart. I remember sending it to all my relatives with young babies Pear and lamb are not very allergenic. I think avocado is also one of the foods in the 8 food diet for food intolerance testing.

According to the government 85% of babies outgrow cows milk intolerance by age 3 so you need to ask your doctors when you can try live yoghurt or cheese (both less allergenic than milk).

Littlefish Thu 11-Aug-05 09:07:52

Thanks Tatt, I did wonder why my book said it was ok to give bio-live yoghurt at 9 months, when cows milk is not introduced until either 12 or 15 months. I didn't realise it was less allergenic. I will have another look and see when cheese is introduced.

jeaniew Fri 12-Aug-05 22:15:40

Hi,
could you please let me know whioch book the Susannah Oliver one is? I have a 7 month old boy who's allergic to dairy, and appears to be allergic to soya (haven't had him tested but had bad reaction to tiny bit of soya yoghurt). In the middle of weaning, and still breastfeeding and expressing to use for watering down his food. We've a family history of v. bad exczema/asthma so would really appreciate any help in finding useful cookbooks - since I started to wean my little boy he has dropped a centile, and most recipes I see for his age are addind in cream/ cheese/ milk etc.

goldie12 Sun 14-Aug-05 20:33:04

I think the book is called 'What should I feed my baby' or something like that.
Does anyone know if this book is completely veggie or does it have some fish recipes? I was going to order it but don't think I will if there's no meat or fish recipes.

Jeanview- I'm having the same problem trying to get enough dairy-free calories into DS!!

Littlefish Mon 15-Aug-05 12:41:35

Sorry, I've been away so I didn't see your question Goldie12.

It has fish and meat recipes in, as well as vegetarian. I really like the recipes and it has encouraged me to be much more adventurous in both main ingredients and seasoning. Try out the "peppy barley stew". It's flavoured with cinnamon, turmuric, ginger and nutmeg. I thought my dd would refuse it point blank, but she absolutely loves it!

jeaniew Tue 16-Aug-05 21:21:05

Thanks goldie12 - I've found it (it was Susannah Olivier, not Oliver!) and it's been ordered from Amazon. He's lost weight in the last 2 weeks so it can't come soon enough!

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