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Anyone had any experience with nanny goat formula for a baby?

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MacMac123 Wed 14-Jan-09 19:13:36

Hi, just posted about Neocate, am exploring all options with my 3.5 month old who is covered in eczema and my GP has referred to an allergy clinic but we can't get an appointment. He meanwhile is scratching himself until he bleeds.
I'm considering trying nanny goat formula. As a child, i had eczema and had to have goats milk (when I was 6 or 7). I know all the stuff about the labelling/EU legistlation with this nanny care nanny goat formula from new zealand, which is why its an 'unoffical' alternative here.

Has anyone actually used it with a young baby? It says on the packet it is nutritionally complete but my GP who is stuck in the dark age anyway seems to think I might as well be giving the baby diet coke from her reaction to that suggestion!

thisisyesterday Wed 14-Jan-09 19:16:41

I agree with your GP. it isn't recommended. however your GP can prescribe something like nutrimagen or neocate if necessary.

AccidentalMum Wed 14-Jan-09 19:18:49

I used it as an occasional supplement to BFing with DD1 from about 4/5 months before the labelling changed (quite recently, don't know if you knew that?). Why isn't it allowed here? Would you consider relactation?

cocolepew Wed 14-Jan-09 19:19:52

I used it for my DD and it was fine.

Drusilla Wed 14-Jan-09 19:25:24

We used it at 6 months+ as his eczema was getting awful, and it really did the trick. At 1yr we went on to normal goats milk. It seemed to me at the time that the only reasons for it being unapproved in this country were labelling technicalities, rather then there actually being anything wroing with it. I tried it because nothing else was working and my eczema has always been exacerbated by cows milk, it turned out he was the same.

MacMac123 Wed 14-Jan-09 19:30:31

It is labelling issues as to why its not available here officially, I phoned the company that make it. We've got Neocate at the moment but my LO is refusing it, even mixed in with his normal formula.
There is no chance of relactation for me, breastfeeding never really worked out for me unfortunately.

cocolepew Wed 14-Jan-09 19:32:15

I was able to get it through Boots, they used to order it for me. I didn't know there was a problem getting it. Mind you this was 7 years ago.

scifinerd Wed 14-Jan-09 19:34:39

what are the labelling issues MacMac and co? I find it all so confusing

thisisyesterday Wed 14-Jan-09 19:35:20

oh and wanted to add that if he is intolerant to cow's milk then it's highly likely that he'll be unable to have goat milk either as the proteins in them are very similar

in your situation i would try gradually switching to neocate by mixing with his regular formula and gradually increasing the amount of neocate.

and get some hope's relief cream for his skin

AccidentalMum Wed 14-Jan-09 19:37:49

You don't live inManchester do you?

thisisyesterday Wed 14-Jan-09 19:37:50

have you read this? it explains why it is no longer for sale in the uk

AccidentalMum Wed 14-Jan-09 19:38:22

MacMac, that is smile

Drusilla Wed 14-Jan-09 19:39:33

I used to buy it online. This was about 3 years ago - I remember it being about twice the price of SMA et al.

Salleroo Wed 14-Jan-09 19:53:44

I used it and yes it is good. You can get it in Waitrose or Fresh & Wild. I would think most independant health food shops stock it. I know H&B dont.

CrushWithEyeliner Wed 14-Jan-09 19:57:04

I used it and found it really good for excema - you can get from waitrose

Clarissimo Wed 14-Jan-09 19:58:19

In fairness he might be able to drn goats milk- many cannot but I can, as can my ds's 1, 3 and 4 (ds2 is fine on milk).

It isn't recommended though at this age, you would be better on neocate or even a soy formula (but I'd choose neocate every time myself).

My GP has suggested I give up BF mmy 9 month old put him on goats milk as his main drink to get my freedom hmm. I feel quite free, thank you very much you silly man!

pamplemousse Wed 14-Jan-09 20:12:33

I used it with dd occasionally (along with bf) from day one, she's fine and still on goats milk. Cow's milk makes her mucusy.
Tis expensive but imo worth it, Susannah Olivier rates it quite well, I know no one who has had a prob with it.
My independent health food co op stock it, sometimes you just have to ask them to buy it in I reckon as its expensive and as not many use it they don't want it sitting around with no guaranteed customers.

MacMac123 Wed 14-Jan-09 20:32:25

Hello - no I'm in London not Manchester, why!?

MacMac123 Wed 14-Jan-09 20:39:15

My local health food shop sells it so there is no problem getting it. Althoug it is expensive it is nowhere near as expensive as Neocate, which is £30 a small tub and I am paying for it myself as my GP is stuck in the dark ages or simply mean, I can't work it out.

simpson Wed 14-Jan-09 22:22:56

My GP said that if a child is intolerant to cows milk then the chances are they won't tolerate goats milk either as the enzymes are very similar...

Clarissimo Wed 14-Jan-09 22:47:54

Similar yes, but not identical. It really does vary but ds4 won't be going anywhere near it until he is 3 (for scare stories look up allergy induced autism)- not aranoid, have 2 autistic kids already.

pamplemousse Wed 14-Jan-09 22:48:42

Your GP sounds like they are guessing...
Tis the fact that goats milk coagulates into smaller easier digetable lumps in the stomach for a start.
Its not the enzymes, milk doesn't have enzymes afaik, enzymes break things down, we have them in our stomach etc.
Its the proteins; proteins in cows milk can in certain people irratate the gut and cause responses such as mucus production, ezcema, goats milk does not contain these certain proteins, one is called gamma casein, I can't recall the other.
HTH

chipmonkey Wed 14-Jan-09 23:32:01

ds2 got eczema after his first bottle of formula which resolved completely when fully bf.
He didn't get it with Nanny but having said that, didn't have Nanny very often!
<wonder sometimes if Clarissimo is me in an alternate universe>

Clarissimo Thu 15-Jan-09 09:47:53

PMSL CM

Could well be

Never had a CS but that might be the parallel divide- spoooooky

loobeylou Thu 15-Jan-09 20:29:12

My friends DD was born 7 weeks prem and needed stomach surgery within days to correct a genetic malformation which meant her stomach and bowel were not connected. After several ops and a lengthy stay in hospital in london, she came home only to suffer projective vomiting on regular formula. With little luck seeing Gp and after severaL RE-ADMISSIONS TO HOSP BECAUSE OF SEVERE VOMITTING MY FRIEND SWITCHED TO THE nz NANNY (whoop just realised caps lock, sorry!) goat formula which she gets in H&B or somewhere like that, very expensive. This was greeted by a sharp intake of breath from the HV who said "its not recommended you know" . But sometimes you just have to trust your instinct. She never looked back and her DD is thriving and healthy 10 months on!

I don't get the article saying its not for sale in UK, must have changed the regs or summat?

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