Wheat Free flours

[eddiejo]

Is Spelt flour a wheat derivitive or wheat free? Have DS 5 on strict wheat and gluten free diet for severe allergy.

GP just prescribed 'gluten free' bread which has wheat derivitive which he is allergic to!

Does anyone get reasonable tasting wheat free and gluten free bread on presciption??

Help please .....

[pagwatch]

no.
gluten and wheat free bread ( really gluten free 0 bought from a shop ( and therefore prescription tends to be disgusting.
the best is home made.
spelt does contain gluten

[eddiejo]

Thanks. We've tried cooking wheat free bread at home and he ended up crying at the taste of it!!

Will carry on trying to get the right blend of flours as i've read somewhere that it needs lots of starch to be tasty??

[pagwatch]

You need to track down the Marilyn Le Breton book which has barbras kitchen recipes in them ( Diet intervention and autism). It has recipes for waffles and pancakes, cakes and biscuits too .
She uses a blend of rice flour tapioca starch flour and potato starch flour. Then you add in xanthum gum which is the thing that makes bread springy.
I think Thoughtful house had stocks of the flours that you could get mail order. Let me check

[pagwatch]

www.innovative-soloutions.org.uk
www.goodnessdirect.co.uk
they have the flours and goodness direct has the book

[eddiejo]

Thank you pagwatch. will check those out.

[flopsy1]

procelli italian brand bread now on free prescripttion for coeliacs sandwich bread and rolls tastes like brioche my kids love it

[KarenThirl]

You might want to try this recipe. Ds was gf for a year and we used to make this every week. Keeps well, freezes well and is soft enough for sandwiches.

G/F GRAIN BREAD

500 mls warm water and goat?s milk (50/50)
3 medium eggs at room temperature
1 ½ oz goat?s butter rubbed into dry ingredients
1 tsp wine vinegar
70g tapioca flour
70g gram (chick pea) flour
280g brown rice flour
4 tbsp of grain mix - a mix to your own taste eg poppy, chopped sunflower and pumpkin and linseed
1 tbsp xanthan gum
1 ½ - 2 tbsp muscovado sugar
1 ½ tsp salt
1 sachet yeast
2 tbsp quinoa flakes
1 tsp baking powder

Place the yeast in the bottom of the bread pan followed by the dry ingredients, then add the wet ingredients

Choose basic 1kg loaf setting and dark crust. You may need to check the mix a few times before the bake programme begins to ensure that the ingredients are fully mixed and not sticking to the side of the pan.

Just before the bake programme begins, sprinkle the surface with more seeds of your choice.

Continue the programme, remove from the bread maker as soon as it is cooked and allow to cool thoroughly before cutting.

[flamingtoaster]

You'll find lots of tried and tested gf bread recipes here:

coeliac.info/suppboard/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=398f4b91b713c97a2ecf71812cefb139

If you have any questions about a specific recipe you can ask them here:

coeliac.info/suppboard/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=398f4b91b713c97a2ecf71812cefb139

My son (allergic to milk and gluten, intolerant to egg) makes himself this at university:

This is the measuring jug version (he doesn't have scales):
1/2 pint Dove's Farm white gf flour
l l/2 teaspoons gf baking powder

Mix together in a bowl and add:

2 tablespoon ground almonds
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon
3 fluid oz sultanas

Mix with room temperature rice milk until you have a thick but moving batter.

Heat frying pan with some oil (we use sunflower), cook over a low/medium heat until firm enough to turn to cook other side( It takes a few goes to get the optimum heat to cook through while getting a nice brown colour on the outside.)

Lots of varieties possible: sun-dried tomatoes and basil is lovely.

I also make him a fruit bread using this recipe:

5 oz potato flour (could use corn flour)
3 oz brown rice flour
2 oz gram flour (can use soya if preferred)
l teasp bicarbonate of soda
l l/2 tablesp olive oil
2 teasp lemon juice
rice or soya milk to mix (cow's milk if not a problem)

Mix dry ingredients, stir in oil and lemon juice thoroughly. Mix to a very soft dropping consistency/thick batter. Add sultanas. Bake approx. 30 mins. Cool on wire rack.

I slice it on day of baking, portion it and freeze it. Then take it out as we need it - it is absolutely delicious toasted but my son has taken it out, buttered, as a lunch.

[flamingtoaster]

Sorry - link to ask questions is: members2.boardhost.com/glutenfree/

[lackaDAISYcal]

glutafin select bread is available on prescription and is one of the nicest I've tried. Was about to say delicious, but that's pushing the boat out.

Just realised it isn't wheat free, but have found Barkat Rice bread which is both gluten and wheat free. Not tried it though, so can't comment on how nice it is. The PIP code for your GP is 244-0691 for the brown variety, and 244-0709 for the white.

you can buy it here if you just want to try it first.

It will probably be OK if it is toasted.
Have you joined coeliac UK? You will bet free membership for your son as he is a minor.

Using Xanthan gum in the bread mix if you are making your own bread makes it a bit more pliable like real bread.

I got this book which has some good bread machine recipes in.

[lackaDAISYcal]

Just had a look in my cupboard. I buy free from English muffins (£1.99 for four) in Sainsbury's which are gluten, wheat and dairy free. They are really nice toasted for breakfast and as a sandwich.

You can also buy Ener-G rice bread there (£1.99 a loaf I think). This is also fine toasted, and is one of the better ones you can buy off the shelf, imo. For sarnies, I toast it, let it go cold and then use for my sarnies. Not exactly Hovis malted granary, but it's passable.

Nature's Path mesa sunrise breakfast cereal is very good too, if you wanted some variation for breakfast. Also available in Sainsbury's and tesco.

and for the odd treat, Kallo free to enjoy jaffa cakes are wheat and gluten free too ....and they are really really nice and moreish.

[eddiejo]

Thank you all so much.

Prob was that we were on gluten free and having just been tested again - it turns out he is also wheat free.

just for info - wheat is divided up into four parts - two cause coeliac disease and the other two wheat allergy. He is allergic to all four! - and the bread we were making was really lovely but only gluten free as it contains wheat starch.

I will try those recipies thank you.

Just feel so sorry for him now as he's more restricted than before and is asking for the 'nice' bread back.

[flamingtoaster]

eddiejo I know how you feel - my son is both coeliac and allergic to gluten and milk (and intolerant to egg). If your DS is OK with egg it would be worth trying baking the Dove's Farm bread made with their glutenfree bread flour (you can get it in Tesco). I've tried baking it without the egg and it was quite nice - but with the egg it is really great according to people on the coeliac board.

[eddiejo]

Thanks flamingtoaster, he's ok with eggs. Must confess it was DH who tried baking the loaf with the dove flour and it was like a house brick! I will try myself later.

Thanks

[wangle99]

Hi eddiejo

My son also has food prescribed due to a wheat allergy, he also is allergic to wheat starch which is found in alot of prescription food.

Like a previous poster said glutafin do do a wheat free range, you can check out their website for info on all their products.

I do make most of DS bread myself in the breadmaker using a mixture of potato flour, rice flour and tapioca flour which came from goodness direct.

[eddiejo]

Thanks wangle, did check them out and have ordered from gp.
Just hope he likes it!!!!

[coe114c]

The best gluten free breads I have tried are the Antoinette Saville/Wellfoods - available on prescription and they have just brought out a sliced loaf, and Glutabye. The Proceli breads are very good too and what's more all 3 brands are wheat free too.

[eddiejo]

Thanks coe114c. will look them up.
Got the glutafin wf gf stuff and he actually ate some - .....getting there

[PhDlifeNeedsaNewLife]

eddiejo, I'm too lazy busy to read the whole thread, but you might find Andrew Whitley's book Bread Matters interesting. It's all about bread and includes a whole chapter on good wheat-free baking. Might save you some ££'s! hth

[eddiejo]

Thanks for the tips - will look that up, and will try the Ener-G-GF loaf too.