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Yeast intolerance - looking for advice

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mishmash Tue 18-Sep-07 18:35:59

Hi there - I am currently on a 4 week elimination diet from Dairy, Yeast, Eggs and Wheat.

I think I am pretty ok on what "not to have" regards Dairy, Eggs and Wheat.

But is there anything in particular I should be looking out for yeast wise other than the very obvious ones. Yeast extract seems to be in everything.

I didn't follow the whole thing "STRICTLY" but am now because there was no point in trying to sneak the odd of glass of wine sad so am now doing without.

I am feeling a bit better as my abdominal cramping and diahorrea aren't half as bad as they were but I am still feeling very lethargic and tired.

Want to stick with it to see what difference it makes but am going to make appt to see GP when I finish it if I don't feel a lot better.

Am also keeping a food diary.

domesticgrumpess Tue 18-Sep-07 23:08:49

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Nightynight Tue 18-Sep-07 23:21:30

I second the suggestion to get a candida book.

I had yeast allergy for several years. As far as I remember
bread, wine, skin of apples, plums, grapes etc, dried fruit, fungi, yeast extract
all off limits.

mishmash Wed 19-Sep-07 09:22:38

Nightynight have you gone back to being able to have yeast?

Nightynight Wed 19-Sep-07 22:58:23

yes.
I had a candida infection for around 4 years before I started treating it. I was off sugar and yeast, plus various other foods, wheat, fructose, tomatoes etc for another 6 years or so. Both candida and the allergies went away in the end, and I am perfectly healthy now! Only the milk reaction remains, but I am not sure if that is an allergy or not.

I had skin tests last year, and wheat and tomatoes showed up as half reactions, but I eat them whenever I want now without getting ill.

from the foods you said you were avoiding, your problem sounds like something similar?

mishmash Thu 20-Sep-07 09:37:22

Thanks Nightynight.

You are right I have had this for the last 6 years and have done nothing about it until now. Yesterday was my first that I didn't have severe cramping and diahorrea after eating smile. Still feeling very lethargic and tired but am on my multivits and oils again so looking forward to feeling much, much better soon.

I had my gallbladder removed 5 years ago and thought all my symptoms were related to that . Was "supposed" to go back to consultant when everything settled down after the op as I had told him about the other symptoms. But of course I never made the time and have suffered for it since.

hotcrossbunny Thu 20-Sep-07 10:03:48

This is all beginning to ring bells with me too.
I've had IBS for years, made much worse by a gall bladder op. Also I've developed strange reactions to lots of foods including tomatoes, lots of fruit, eggs etc. Allergy tests were inconclusive, except that I was an 'allergic' person. I worked in a bar in germany which involved serving (and drinking)lots of wheat beer, 'hefeweizen' - hefe means yeast...I was sick a lot and always had a headache, bloating etc and had to give up the job. I wonder if yeast could be one of my triggers? I've never thought of it before...
Think I will investigate an elimination diet after hearing your story nightynight. Whats the best way to go about it? Will invest in a candida book too.
Let us know how you get on mishmash...

Nightynight Thu 20-Sep-07 17:54:32

mishmash, and hcb, how awful. Having been there myself, I can really sympathise with your experiences.
I had tests from Dr Choy in Wimpole street (dont know if he is still there). He did some research on the Miller method, and I would recommend him, because he did seem to pick up what I was reacting to.
I had 2 of the allergens (wheat and tomatoes) confirmed later with skin prick tests. I never had skin prick tests for any of the other foods - the tests were just coincidence, for something else.

The process of getting better was fairly long. I went to Dr Choy, got a list of allergens, eliminated them plus sugar, felt better. After several months, I was feeling bad again, went back, was told that another allergen was showing. This cycle was repeated 3 times.
My health then settled down, and I left it for a couple of years and then tried re-introducing the foods. By then, the candida had gone away and I felt much better all round.

I wouldnt try elimination diets on my own, because if you have several allergies, it is just too complicated. You can develop multiple allergies as a result of a candida infection. I would try to get some tests, more than one set if necessary. It is a bit of a maze. But worth it in the end - I am fitter and healthier now, aged 40 than I was aged 20.

hotcrossbunny Thu 20-Sep-07 19:27:34

Sounds fascinating and very familiar at the same time. Will find out more because as you say, its really complicated trying to eliminate a range of things. I feel like I'll never eat normally again. Also optimistic that I can beat this, allergy specialist has just said live with itsad

Nightynight Thu 20-Sep-07 22:14:52

if you have candida, that's yeast out of control in your gut (usually, it can be worse). You develop an allergy to yeast, because there's so much of it, producing toxins. Then you get allergies to other foods, because once there's a hole in your immune system, stuff just floods through, so to speak.
you can starve the yeast in your gut by going off sugar.
then you need to avoid the allergens.
then you wait until the candida and allergies go away.

as far as I know, there is no reliable way to get the candida not to come back, because they dont really know why it gets out of control in the first place.
you can try taking lactobacillus supplements, or taking a yeast killing drug like nystatin, but it will only have a temp effect if the flora in your gut is out of kilter. Starving the yeast and waiting is still the most effective way of dealing with it, I believe. my doctor tried a course of vitamin and mineral supplements for me, but he said he was just casting the net wide, and guessing, and I dont know if they did any good.

A worse thing is if the yeast is in your blood, and someone on mn had this, she described it last year. you should find it if you do a search. if you are bloating though, its probably in your gut, which is relatively easy to control.
good luck, you can beat this if it is a candida infection.

Grannan Thu 04-Oct-07 22:23:56

Have recommended to family and friends to bake own bread. Lakelend plastics of all people! do a packet of 4 X separatly batched mixes. Gluten, Wheat, yeast and dairy free.
I make in muffin tin and freez as rolls.
It tastes better than a lot I have tried.

Chipstick Tue 09-Oct-07 21:01:12

Nightynight - thats really interesting. I'm in my third week of eliminating yeast and sugar from my diet. Had no idea re apples n tomatoes? Are there any others that I wouldn't necessarily think of?

Iworryalot Sun 26-Oct-08 08:01:44

Hi all , this all sounds familiar to me to ...Have been diagnosed with IBS and had various tests ...
once reading up on all sorts of things Candida infection to the Gut / bowel sounded just what i get like .

Bloating /wind /undigested food /mushy BM blush
i went to see a Nutritional Therapyist who has diagnosed candida , and and has advised i remove all wheat from y diet as this forments in the stomach /gut and follow a diet wheat free and cut down on sugar intake , drink water etc .
Also to take a supplement called immune care Candigest to help fight the candida in my gut/bowel and to take Bio Kult to increase the good bacteria in my gut , also a Digestive Enzyme to help digest the food .
I will give it a go and see if this helps .

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