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CMP allergy: what is your DC's main milk after 12 months?

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garliclover Mon 04-Jul-11 11:34:48

Just wondering, cos my DS has been on Aptamil Pepti but now that he's 12 months am worried about calcium and iron intake (he's also allergic to soya, egg and wheat).
I've heard Aptamil now do a follow-on Pepti 2 so have asked for a prescription, and am also using Oatly and Kara dairy-free for cereals.
Does anyone still use hypoallergenic formula for main milk between ages of 1 and 2?

hwhite6 Mon 04-Jul-11 11:58:56

We're still on nutramigen 2 at 20m (dairy, soya, wheat & gluten allergies). Dietician more than happy to keep status-quo as not having fantastic luck at milk challenges so far.
I use this for breakfast cereal too as not as many calories in other milks (we couldn't do oatly either, oats upset him too!). They need ~350mg of calcium/day from 1-2yrs and 14oz of nutramigen provide 394mg according to dietician, so I'm more than happy to keep this milk going!

garliclover Mon 04-Jul-11 12:16:17

hwhite6, I'm envious of your dietician. We got a referral to a community dietician who said that DS's allergies were too difficult for her to give proper advice. How did you get your referral, or did you go private?
I feel I've let DS down by following wrong advice from different people, and he missed out on good nutrition for the past 6 months sad

babybarrister Mon 04-Jul-11 14:13:46

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UnseenAcademicalMum Mon 04-Jul-11 17:22:08

We used Neocate Active with ds2 till he was 2 yo. This is designed for children from age 1 plus. However, we found Neocate made ds2's reflux much, much worse, so he now has oatly with oat cream mixed in to boost the calories (we make a mixture which has more or less the calorie/fat content of gold-top milk).

freefrommum Mon 04-Jul-11 18:23:09

My DS has just turned 4 and is still on Neocate Active. Dietician told us to stick with it until he's 5 to make sure he's getting enough calcium etc. Will probably try Oatly when he's closer to 5. Our dietician is really good but she does admit that she finds it difficult to come up with meal ideas for him given the combination of his allergies (milk, wheat, egg and nuts). We generally see her each time we have an appointment with the consultant (NHS, not private). I think it's a terrible cop-out on the part of your dietician to say that she can't give suitable advice - that's her job for goodness sake!!! If I were you, I'd complain strongly and get them to find you a dietician that CAN do their job properly - it is your right.

In the meantime, if you're worried about calcium, I'd suggest Tesco or Morrison's own brand hot oat cereal (like Ready Brek) as it has added vits and calcium then add some raisins (good for iron). One bowl of that made with hypoallergenic follow-on provides almost all the daily calcium your little one needs.

garliclover Mon 04-Jul-11 22:33:06

Thanks for all the advice and info -- I knew mners would have the answer! I've reintroduced oats and readybrek etc. only recently, having stupidly followed the advice of our GP to keep him off gluten altogether (even though it is wheat protein he's allergic to, not all gluten). Thanks, freefrom, I'll be more pushy about the dietician (again, terrible advice from her, amounted to just plying my poor DC with Bird's Eye custard, which he hates).
Sorry to moan, but from the beginning we've been given such bad medical advice, which has always proved to be wrong. My DP and I have just steered our own course to find the answer to the reflux and the eczema -- one GP actually said he was just 'colicky' and very clever at getting our attention! Now that we've had him tested properly and all the allergies we suspected have been confirmed, I hope we won't be left feeling our way in the dark anymore...!

BoojaBooja Mon 04-Jul-11 22:50:24

I'd stick to Oatly (it has slightly more calcium than Kara, although it doesn't take as nice, I suppose).

I don't recommend adding iron-rich foods, such as raisins to the porridge, as it will hinder calcium absorption. Keep calcium-rich meals and iron-rich meals separate.

UnseenAcademicalMum Mon 04-Jul-11 23:45:44

When it comes to crap dieticians, mine once said she liked it when we had an appointment with her, as we gave her lots of new ideas! FFS, who is being paid to help who here?

hwhite6 Tue 05-Jul-11 08:07:13

I agree with you Unseen, I tend to give my dietician more food, product & recipe advice them she's ever given me!!
Freefrom, have you ever found the site Pig in the Kitchen? it covers all of your allergies and has some great recipes on it, certainly worth it for the gingerbread if nothing else!

garliclover Tue 05-Jul-11 11:04:23

Interesting, booja about the calcium and iron -- I thought it was dairy that hindered iron absorption...I'll bear that in mind!
About the dieticians, it seems that unless they have children of their own with allergies, they just don't have the motivation to find new inventive meal ideas...but I suppose the good side is that they pass on your own ideas to other mums!

babybarrister Tue 05-Jul-11 12:01:15

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garliclover Tue 05-Jul-11 13:32:59

Talking about new products -- this morning I discovered that Marks do a gluten-free egg-free range of hamburgers. I know, not exactly healthy, but am so excited about it!!!

freefrommum Tue 05-Jul-11 17:26:14

garliclover we had a similarly poor experience with GPs, HVs etc. They were totally useless tbh and it took ages to get referred to dermatology and allergy specialist. I've since switched surgeries as our previous one made some near fatal mistakes that endangered my son's life. New surgery ok so far but I rely on the specialists more than the GPs anyway. BoojaBooja I've never heard that before about iron affecting calcium absorption, will look into that and mention to dietician. Have to say, our dietician has also said that she learns almost as much from me as I learn from her. I'm often passing on new food ideas to her! hwhite6 yes pig in the kitchen is a great site, haven't been on for a while so must have another look.

BoojaBooja Tue 05-Jul-11 21:05:15

garliclover, dairy does hinder iron absorption. I'd never give my daughter dairy for that and other health reasons.

freefrommum, yep calcium can interfere with iron absorption, so it's best to have calcium-rich and iron-rich foods (or supplements) at different times of the day.

Whelk Tue 05-Jul-11 21:33:15

DD2 (2.2) is still on (prescribed) Neocate

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