What would Boris and his party have to do that’s bad enough from him to have to step down ?

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Roundeartheratchriatmas Tue 07-Dec-21 22:30:19

I was wondering this after seeing someone musing on one of the threads about the Christmas Party held at Downing Street that nothing seems to stick to him.

What would it take for people to not vote for him ? Or for Boris to have to step down/ the party to hold a vote of no confidence in him.

The handling of Brexit ?

The utter shambles that was the covid response and the lies about the Downing Street party ?

Test and trace being an utter waste of money ?

Giving cronies multi million pound contracts (see above test and trace) ?

Is there anything ?

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AssassinatedBeauty Tue 07-Dec-21 22:35:08

I think that the more he gets away with the more some people admire him and are envious of his ability to float to the top and his Teflon slipperiness to escape censure. Turns out there's a lot of people like that. Plus when you add in a dire standard of politician atm and consequent lack of coherent opposition, you get low turnouts and low engagement with the electoral process altogether. Making it harder to shift the status quo. Depressing.

Orcadianrythyms Tue 07-Dec-21 22:35:51

Anyone who is watching the news tonight would be sickened - laughing about it shows the utter contempt they have for us. We're there to follow the rules that they ignore. Unbelievable if they survive this.

amusedbush Tue 07-Dec-21 22:37:07

People knew he was a lying, philandering, homophobic, racist piece of shit and they still voted him in, so I don't hold much hope.

I fucking hate the lot of them and it blows my mind that the Tories have such a chokehold on the voters.

OhWhyNot Tue 07-Dec-21 22:38:24

I really don’t know.

Someone will have to step down it won’t be him he is still too popular and apparently wasn’t there hmm

Kendodd Tue 07-Dec-21 22:39:19

Tory voters have been captured, they will support the Tories no matter what.
Johnson knows this and this means he can do whatever he wants.
I think its because of Brexit. If you admit or acknowledge the lying and corruption you might have to question the lies you were told about Brexit and voters won't do that so will go to their graves supporting Johnson and the Tories.
I despair the direction voters have taken the country in.

Roundeartheratchriatmas Tue 07-Dec-21 22:42:13

* People knew he was a lying, philandering, homophobic, racist piece of shit and they still voted him in, so I don't hold much hope.*

I have to say this is my view too. I wasn’t shocked by tonight’s news. I don’t even feel it’s especially unexpected to be honest.

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Roundeartheratchriatmas Tue 07-Dec-21 22:43:09

I do like the press currently saying “there’s no indication the PM was present at the party”

Yeah I mean he only lives there right ?

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OhWhyNot Tue 07-Dec-21 22:45:06

No I’m not shocked at all but feel disappointed we deserve better regardless who you voted for

What is most interesting is why it’s come out now a year later. Someone getting their own back …

LookslovelyinSpringtime Tue 07-Dec-21 22:47:37

The problem is there is no one to take his place. The whole party is a shambles full of rotten apples. Labour has no proper leadership, no policies and a load of renegades. It’s the devil you know syndrome.

Forion Tue 07-Dec-21 22:47:44

The people that voted tory won't want to admit they got it so badly wrong.

Where the hell is the opposition? They should be burying johnson by now? angry

LizzieSiddal Tue 07-Dec-21 22:49:20

* amusedbush*

People knew he was a lying, philandering, homophobic, racist piece of shit and they still voted him in, so I don't hold much hope.

I fucking hate the lot of them and it blows my mind that the Tories have such a chokehold on the voters.

I agree with this. I actually think many of those who’ve voted for them can’t acknowledge they have been had in such a massive way, so they carry on believing everything is fine. It’s like being in an gaslighting, abusive relationship.

amusedbush Tue 07-Dec-21 22:51:36

Forion

The people that voted tory won't want to admit they got it so badly wrong.

Where the hell is the opposition? They should be burying johnson by now? angry

The people who voted Tory will just say "cOrByN wOuLd HaVe BeEn WoRsE" so there's no arguing with that

TooBigForMyBoots Tue 07-Dec-21 22:53:38

He can do whatever the fuck he wants @Roundeartheratchriatmas. He has a large majority. Many of them, new MPs, eager to take guidance and be seen as team players.

It doesn't matter how badly he behaves. It doesn't matter how many lies he tells. How much of an ignorant, hypocritical, lazy he is. It doesn't matter what we think of him.🤷‍♀️

He can pretty much do whatever he wants until the next election.fangry

thecatfromjapan Tue 07-Dec-21 22:54:09

I think it's like a bit like leaving a bad relationship or terrible job: you have to believe you're worth more.

Personally, I believe the U.K. deserves better than this appalling person as its Prime Minister. I look at the place I live and I love the people here. I profoundly believe we deserve better.

However, I think a lot of people don't yet feel that way. 🤷‍♀️

But it's true.

We deserve so, so much better than incompetence, cynicism, sleaze and a thoroughgoing, reckless addiction to corruption in matters small and large.

We have always deserved better.

And particularly now, during this pandemic.

JurgensCakeBabyJesus Tue 07-Dec-21 22:54:11

I was quite young when it all happened but remember seeing the odd tabloid headline about Tory MPs with oranges in their mouths/latex/fishnets etc. It was quite the scandal at the time, I think similar these days would just be used as stonewall PR. I'm not sure there's anything they could do politically or otherwise that would shock the public. They've manoeuvred themselves into a position where no one has any level of expectation, so they can only do better than expected. It would be fairly clever if it had been deliberate.

LizzieSiddal Tue 07-Dec-21 22:56:33

Many of them, new MPs, eager to take guidance and be seen as team players.

I don’t hunk that’s true. Most of the new MPs are from the North and know if they could be out if Johnson carries on the way he is at the moment. They want him gone.

LookslovelyinSpringtime Tue 07-Dec-21 22:57:38

thecatfromjapan

I think it's like a bit like leaving a bad relationship or terrible job: you have to believe you're worth more.

Personally, I believe the U.K. deserves better than this appalling person as its Prime Minister. I look at the place I live and I love the people here. I profoundly believe we deserve better.

However, I think a lot of people don't yet feel that way. 🤷‍♀️

But it's true.

We deserve so, so much better than incompetence, cynicism, sleaze and a thoroughgoing, reckless addiction to corruption in matters small and large.

We have always deserved better.

And particularly now, during this pandemic.

Yes but who would take his place?

Roundeartheratchriatmas Tue 07-Dec-21 23:03:19

There has to be a limit even for him.

Maybe wonder if he took a shit in parliament that would be enough ? Probably not.

Reminds me of Trump saying he could go out and shoot someone and people would still vote for him.

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SexyNeckbeard Tue 07-Dec-21 23:08:19

The people that voted tory won't want to admit they got it so badly wrong.

People that voted tory didn't want the hard left policies, identity politics and kitchen sink manifesto on offer from Labour during the election. Its not the voters fault that Labour made themselves unelectable and its not the voters fault that Labour seem very happy to remain so.

Rochim20 Tue 07-Dec-21 23:12:35

Politics has been about personality over policies for 20+ years. It's unfortunate that we value a PM with personality more than their policies. Sadly, there isn't anyone in Labour (that I've noticed) who has enough of a personality to compete with Johnson. We had Teflon Tony, now we've got Bent Boris.

OhWhyNot Tue 07-Dec-21 23:16:17

Regardless if someone voted Tory in the last election Covid has changed everything

People will still continue to vote Tory as they believe the polices are better for the country but can still loath the current leaders of the party

I don’t believe Theresa May or John Major or even Thatcher would show such contempt for the public as this current government

Johnson will come out fine a few will get sacked a reshuffle

Labour really need a leader that will challenge Johnson’s popularity (unfortunately I can’t think of anyone)

Kendodd Tue 07-Dec-21 23:33:18

People will still continue to vote Tory as they believe the polices are better for the country but can still loath the current leaders of the party

What policies are those then?

ElizabethG81 Tue 07-Dec-21 23:36:52

Roundeartheratchriatmas

I do like the press currently saying “there’s no indication the PM was present at the party”

Yeah I mean he only lives there right ?


It'll come out he was in the Caribbean or something grin

Newcomer68 Tue 07-Dec-21 23:44:31

Eat a puppy. Live. On the BBC.

Though I bet his devoted little followers would STILL insist he was doing his best.

This country is now utterly untrustworthy, regressionist, Jingoistic, racist, disabled/elderly/poor-hating, sexist, misogynistic, misanthropic, elitist, isolated, and delusional.

The rest of the (western) world regularly wets itself laughing at how far we've fallen (and much of the rest of the world looks at us and knows, once and for all, just how untrustworthy we now are).

And it's not much comfort for those of us that didn't vote for it to tell ourselves we didn't vote for it. It's still the reality we have to cope with. I'm glad I'm not any younger. I'll be telling the next generations in the family to emigrate. Permanently. If they want anything like a decent life.

(And people don't vote for policies. They vote for personalities. And the mass mainstream media still ADORES Boris, his cosplay, and his merry band of bandits.)

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